Sorry...I didn't mean for it to come off as an insult. There is a ton of degen vtubers so I get the stigma but I meant it as a compliment. I'm a pngtuber but almost all vtubing talents stay away from alt tech. Maybe you could count hector martins crew but they're kinda cringe imo. I guess I jumped the gun tho, I saw ur avatar and the fact you had a stream and Immediately presumed you were a vtuber but if you work on a personal avatar thats hype! As I said before mines just a png but it does add personality to a stream.