@Jens_Rasmussen @nugger The Turkish outrage at this was funny as fuck, especially because before the Ottomans THERE WAS NO SENSE OF AN UNITED TURKEY.
The Karamanids and the Candarids saw themselves as distinct People, the Ottomans did so too, and genocided the Karamanids. Sure not every Beylik proclaimed to be its very own People a lot just viewed themselves as the Descendants of the ''Rúm'' but there was no full-on ''WE ARE TURKS'' Belief.