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1. nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 19:25:16 JST nugger
   ITS PRETTY SAD THAT CALIFORNIA ARMENIANS WILL BE THE ONLY ARMENIANS LEFT
   PERHAPS SOME ENCLAVE OF ARMENIANS WILL SURVIVE UNDER THE AZERIS AS A DYING OUT MINORITY
   BUT THIS IS A PEOPLE THAT'S EXISTED CONTINUOUSLY FOR WELL OVER TWO MILLENIA WITHIN MORE OR LESS THE SAME GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION
   AND IT'S NUTS BECAUSE EVEN TWO CENTURIES AGO THE IDEA OF "WE CAN IGNORE NEARBY REGIONAL POWERS, THE EMPIRE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET HAS GOT OUR BACK" COULDN'T EVEN BE CONSIDERED
   • Waldbrand (waldbrand@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 19:25:15 JST Waldbrand

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     • Jens_Rasmussen
     @Jens_Rasmussen @nugger Going to well actually there: Its only Turkish Sources that say the Turks were a Super Majority in Anatolia by the 14th Century. In the 14th, there still were Karamanlids (essentially Greeks), Pontus (Greeks), Armenians, Cappadocians, Laz etc. Turks only became a full-on Majority by the 17th Century.
     New Janny in Town likes this.
   • Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 19:25:16 JST Jens_Rasmussen

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     This reads kind of like 14th century-posting, but regarding Greek Anatolia in general.
   • nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 19:38:49 JST nugger

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     @Waldbrand @Jens_Rasmussen "WE ARE TURKS" WAS A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN AND STATE BACKED CULTURAL MOVEMENT
     "HOW GOOD -- TO CALL YOURSELF A TURK", WAS THE ACTUAL WORDING
     
     THE TURKISH IDEA IS A CONSTRUCTED EXCLUSIVE ETHNIC IDENTITY THAT WAS CREATED IN SELF DEFENSE, TO CREATE A UNITED FRONT TO PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF MUSLIM FORMER OTTOMAN SUBJECTS AFTER WW1
     
     THAT'S HOW THESE IDENTITIES FORM IN GENERAL -- OUT OF THE NEED TO EXCLUDE THE OTHER GROUPS' INTERESTS FROM YOUR POLITY
     
     THATS WHY CROATS INSIST ON A UNIQUELY CROATIAN LANGUAGE, ITS WHY BULGARIANS LARP AS MACEDONIANS IN FYROM AND ITS HOW FUTURE WHITE AMERICAN ETHNICITY WILL BE CONCEIVED
   • Waldbrand (waldbrand@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 19:38:49 JST Waldbrand

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     @nugger @Jens_Rasmussen >WHY BULGARIANS LARP AS MACEDONIANS IN FYROM AND ITS HOW FUTURE WHITE AMERICAN ETHNICITY WILL BE CONCEIVED
     I UNIRONICALLY SUPPORT THAT LARP. SURE IT COMPLETLY A-HISTORICAL AND ALEXANDER WASN'T A SLAV, BUT WITHOUT IT, MACEDONIA BY NOW WOULD JUST BE SPLIT BETWEEN GREECE, BULGARIA AND ALBANIA.
   • nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 19:38:49 JST nugger

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     @Waldbrand @Jens_Rasmussen THE LARP FUCKIN W O R K S
     IT ACTUALLY DOES PRESERVE YOUR POLITY'S INTERESTS AND UNIFY THE PEOPLE
   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 19:38:49 JST New Janny in Town

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     @nugger @Jens_Rasmussen @Waldbrand let me tell you something about government cultural works. Indonesians basically never existed until the Dutch united the whole archipelago in the 19th century. Our national language is Malay with some Dutch words added into it. The majority of people weren't and still aren't Malays either, they're Javanese. So there's not really anything unifying us apart from the shared heritage of Dutch colonialism, which is probably the reason why people love talking about le evil Dutch all day long.
     
     It has been more than 70 years since the declaration of independence, ethnic rivalry is still strong in some places and lots of people prefer to call themselves based on their ethnicity, like Javanese, Sundanese and Bataknese. Although change has happened too, children are now taught the national language first before their local language, in the curriculum they're taught about the Indonesian history as well, mainly about the Independence war and the struggle after that, almost none about the period before that. The result is there, children grow up to be Indonesian first and then placed their ethnicity after that, race mixing between ethnicity are becoming more prevalent, this goes so far as to create a new kind of history, centered around the belief of Indonesian heritage given by the ancient Majapahit kingdom, which united the archipelago.
     
     If you go to Jakarta, you will see this brand new people who almost rejected everything about their ethnic heritage, only using it as a tool to get closer to people. The place is a unholy melting pot of brown people coming from thousands of islands. The central government make sure that this people are being bred to replace the older ones, making sure that the country is unified from the conflict that would arise like in the Spice Islands, Timor and Papua. I don't know where they're trying to go with this thing, they don't seem to understand a political view apart from their Liberal foundation found in the constitution.
   • Waldbrand (waldbrand@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 19:38:50 JST Waldbrand

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     • Jens_Rasmussen
     @Jens_Rasmussen @nugger The Turkish outrage at this was funny as fuck, especially because before the Ottomans THERE WAS NO SENSE OF AN UNITED TURKEY.
     The Karamanids and the Candarids saw themselves as distinct People, the Ottomans did so too, and genocided the Karamanids. Sure not every Beylik proclaimed to be its very own People a lot just viewed themselves as the Descendants of the ''Rúm'' but there was no full-on ''WE ARE TURKS'' Belief.
   • Waldbrand (waldbrand@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 19:38:51 JST Waldbrand

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     • Jens_Rasmussen
     @Jens_Rasmussen @nugger Then I apologize for reading it wrong.
   • Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 19:38:51 JST Jens_Rasmussen

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     • Waldbrand
     I am slightly aware of the topic because I saw this video recently.
     (I have map game brainrot)
     https://www.youchu.be/watch?v=bYpmz4x7YlE
   • Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 19:38:52 JST Jens_Rasmussen

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     • Waldbrand
     I know, that was my point. That those greeks were in the process of losing their country and thus also identity.
   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 19:48:00 JST New Janny in Town

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     @nugger @Jens_Rasmussen @Waldbrand yeah preventing an eternal guerilla war like those in Burma and Vietnam sounds cool but you gotta have a higher goal you know, not a single thing worthy of pride being achieved here apart from getting the most amount of money you could ever have in your life.
     
     Sundanese are a ethnicity on the western part of Java, with the Javanese they make up 60% of our people. Unlike their eastern counterpart, the Sundanese are more faithful on the way of Islam and they seem to rarely ever migrate out of their place. They also have one of the most atrocious numbers of divorce in the country, I heard there's a 18 years old girl who has been divorced 3 times. Sudanese are niggers.
   • nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 01-Jul-2024 19:48:01 JST nugger

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     @MK2boogaloo @Jens_Rasmussen @Waldbrand I DON'T THINK ITS IDEOLOGICAL
     I THINK THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO PREVENT JUNGLE GUERILLA FOREVER WAR
     
     ALSO
     HOW ARE THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE SUNDANESE AND THE SUDANESE FROM SUDAN