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Rowdy Ramzan 🅉 (rowdyramzan@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:23:30 JST Rowdy Ramzan 🅉
@mkultra @MechaSilvio @Boomerman @WashedOutGundamPilot @AnimeTradCath Seems kinda like being drunk might've had some part to play in releasing the audio clip which alleged embezzlement which has been walked back by Conte himself

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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:23:30 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @RowdyRamzan @mkultra @MechaSilvio @Boomerman @AnimeTradCath TBH if I were governing any of this cat-circus I’d literally rap the fuck out of their knuckles with a ruler any time a personality shows up drunk in recorded media.
  Phenomenally unprofessional and complete poison if you want high-quality members.
  But….whatever. It’s not my group, and they ARE the ones putting their faces out there while I’m talking online, so they got more skin in the game than me.
  
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- jollybudd1350 🎄 :njp: 🎄 (johnbudd1350@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:33:12 JST jollybudd1350 🎄 :njp: 🎄
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  @RowdyRamzan @mkultra @MechaSilvio @Boomerman @WashedOutGundamPilot @AnimeTradCath Damn he really did walk it back. What we were calling "njp cope posts" the other night turned out to be true. Situation still sucks, but it does seem Conte went off the reservation.
  
  t.me/gregory_conte/557
  
  > To reiterate what I stated last night, over the past few weeks I have found serious issues with the corporate structure and fiscal oversight of the NJP. When I raised those issues with the board, my concerns were dismissed. I offered a comprehensive solution to the problems in the organization. It was refused. Ultimately, I was offered $10,000 to go away. When I refused that money, this suspicious transfer appeared in the banking records, which initiated my public break from the party.
  
  >Individuals from the NJP now claim I signed documents on 2/13 “legally relinquishing any association from the NJP.” They are confused. I signed documents relinquishing legal liability from the NJ LLC, which do not take effect until acknowledged by the state. Until those documents are processed, I am still legally liable for NJ LLC. I did not resign from the board. I have not been formally fired.
  
  >Today, I finally received documents showing where the $10,000 went. If it is in fact the case that Tony Hovater transferred money to a new corporate Kraken account on orders from Mike Peinovich, such action was taken without full knowledge of the board, and still indicates serious problems with the corporate oversight of the NJP’s fiscal situation. You cannot make up corporate governance on the fly.
  
  >Individuals from the NJP also indicate in their statement that they intend to pursue legal action against me. I am fully prepared for such action since I have all of the evidence on my side, but I very much doubt they will, since they would not enjoy the results.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:33:12 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @johnbudd1350 @RowdyRamzan @mkultra @MechaSilvio @Boomerman @AnimeTradCath Their cope posts were non-substantial though. I’m not thinking there was out and out intentional fraud or crime by any means, but I everything I’ve seen points to a general sloppiness and unprofessionalism that endangers everyone named in company ink.
  I even agree with a good deal of what Sven and Mick have said, I think their portion of the story is somewhat true, as is Greg’s. I think they’re in over their head, and have a LOT of outstanding risk because of sloppy or nonexistent recordkeeping, and any corporate armor they think they have is an utter fiction. This whole thing should be a “Come to Jesus” moment that gets them to spend the next month reviewing and revising the level of corporate upkeep they’ve done, and if the current structure is too sloppy, they’ll shutter it and start from scratch.
  I very much stand opposed to the way their people have handled this though - They’re having a hard time getting away from internet bloodsports and into movement building diplomacy. They’re very, VERY quick, almost eager to burn bridges the second someone asks a question because they’ve spent almost 10 years bickering online. That will NOT augment membership, and is a wonderful way to make sure your movement sputters out, bleeding a few hundred people a month.
  I understand WHY they’re quick to anger, but still disappointed that they’re so content to burn bridges with white brothers when they aspire to eventually integrate everyone into this would-be NSDAP. They have lost sight of their brotherhood, and that doesn’t bode well for growth, nor becoming a viable political option. It only bodes somewhat poorly for keeping up a thriving drama subreddit for a dying niche show though.
  
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- JSDorn (jsdorn@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:33:20 JST JSDorn
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  @johnbudd1350 @RowdyRamzan @mkultra @MechaSilvio @Boomerman @WashedOutGundamPilot @AnimeTradCath so what does this mean exactly? That the books at NJP are just really disorganized and the party is poorly run and organized?
  
  That's not the worst thing in the world, but I think the way the NJP folks handled the response is worse.
  
  Bad leadership decisions
  
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- Boomerman (boomerman@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:35:33 JST Boomerman
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  @JSDorn @johnbudd1350 @AnimeTradCath @MechaSilvio @RowdyRamzan @WashedOutGundamPilot @mkultra Greg was wrong about the money going directly to tony. The issues are still there. Why did a board member go nuts? If he was threatening to seize funds why were they gonna pay him 10k? Why did a squabble like this blow up in public and why did they decide to fire him so quickly?
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:39:19 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @johnbudd1350 @RowdyRamzan @mkultra @MechaSilvio @Boomerman @AnimeTradCath I think they are doing some good, but they REALLY need a true, solid leader to captain the ship, because it looks like a bunch of buddies just wingin’ it and that never lasts very long.
  You see small companies like this, where they get a burst of surprise success, incorporate, and manage to get through the entry-level stuff to start growing and actually hire outsiders. Suddenly, the company starts having issues, because until now, everyone was friends/family and you didn’t NEED official company procedures. You didn’t need rules and regulations, because who needs to actually manage family? Well, once you hire your first handful of outsiders, you have to grow up and codify a lot of things that had been unwritten (and unnecessary) when it was just you and the bro’s.
  I’d bet they’re around that stage now, and failing to stick the landing here is a crisis many a company does not survive.
  
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- MyLittleFashy (mylittlefashy@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:39:27 JST MyLittleFashy
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @johnbudd1350 @RowdyRamzan @mkultra @MechaSilvio @Boomerman @AnimeTradCath What he said, I do believe in the amateurish clusterfuck theory a lot more than in any nefarious motive of anybody involved, but that clusterfuck does look worse than I imagined.
  Very few, if any, organization, especially one handling internet money, look great when under a magnifying lens, but there is looking bad and there’s … OMG MY PANTS ARE ON FIRE bad…
  
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- Boomerman (boomerman@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:39:34 JST Boomerman
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  @MyLittleFashy @WashedOutGundamPilot @johnbudd1350 @RowdyRamzan @mkultra @MechaSilvio @AnimeTradCath This has been my concern the whole time since talking to mckevitt
  
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- JSDorn (jsdorn@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:40:19 JST JSDorn
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  @Boomerman @johnbudd1350 @AnimeTradCath @MechaSilvio @RowdyRamzan @WashedOutGundamPilot @mkultra we got a glimpse of the inner workings and it's not pretty.
  
  I will say I think they can recover from this. This is not proof of embezzlement or any other crime, but I think Conte's frustration is entirely valid.
  
  If they were just some normie friendly charity or some sort of hobby group none of this would matter, nobody would care.
  
  Considering their goals and ambitions they need to get more serious and much more professional.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:45:47 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @MechaSilvio @JSDorn @johnbudd1350 @AnimeTradCath @Boomerman @RowdyRamzan @mkultra Yes, but like the rest, he’s an amateur at this. He’s no pro, but he saw something smoking and sounded the alarm. It may not have been a true fire, but there’s a smoldering wire sitting next to a bucketful of rags and everyone’s shrugging him off because it hasn’t caught flame (yet).
  I’m just saying that they need to fix the wiring and get rid of the bucket.
  Nobody in the group knows entirely what they’re doing, from the sound of it, unless there’s some secret corps of business-owners that have completed a successful, headache-free company handover/sale I don’t know of (totally possible). Sounds like a typical learn-as-you-go kitchen LLC and those never hold up under scrutiny. Unlike the rest of them though, theirs will almost undoubtedly be targeted someday, so it’s best to get the house in order ASAP if it isn’t already.
  As things are they probably have like, $3500 or so in either accountant or legal fees in order to go over EVERYTHING and make sure they’re nice and safe with the structure as it stands. Maybe there’s a couple accountants/lawyers in the membership for cheap.
  
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- Berlusconi Anime Fever :sonnenrad: (mechasilvio@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:45:48 JST Berlusconi Anime Fever :sonnenrad:
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  @JSDorn @johnbudd1350 @AnimeTradCath @Boomerman @RowdyRamzan @WashedOutGundamPilot @mkultra Means nothing. He went from embezzlement to "serious issues with the structure" (a.k.a. DEEB GONCERN)
  
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- Christmas Coon (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:46:08 JST Christmas Coon
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @johnbudd1350 @RowdyRamzan @mkultra @MechaSilvio @Boomerman @AnimeTradCath They need to take some of those 10k payments they're willing to throw around and hire an accountant.
  
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- Rowdy Ramzan 🅉 (rowdyramzan@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:48:20 JST Rowdy Ramzan 🅉
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  @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot @johnbudd1350 @mkultra @MechaSilvio @Boomerman @AnimeTradCath I don't know if a baseless accusation of embezzlement that's walked back in <24 hours warrants any action
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:48:20 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @RowdyRamzan @MeBigbrain @johnbudd1350 @mkultra @MechaSilvio @Boomerman @AnimeTradCath You can’t possibly say NOW isn’t the right time to get (what very well could be) the FIRST set of professional eyes on the company’s documents when they’re literally transferring wholesale ownership of the entire operation
  
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- Dr. Rupert, Doctor of Shitpoasting Studies (rupertvonripp@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:48:37 JST Dr. Rupert, Doctor of Shitpoasting Studies
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @MechaSilvio @JSDorn @johnbudd1350 @AnimeTradCath @Boomerman @RowdyRamzan @mkultra Statistically there has to be at least one of each who would do it for Chairmans Club membership.
  
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- Berlusconi Anime Fever :sonnenrad: (mechasilvio@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:49:00 JST Berlusconi Anime Fever :sonnenrad:
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  @JSDorn @johnbudd1350 @AnimeTradCath @Boomerman @RowdyRamzan @WashedOutGundamPilot @mkultra If that's true, would you go to Telegram and LARP as Goebbels in a speech to air it out? Then you'd be even less serious.
  
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- jollybudd1350 🎄 :njp: 🎄 (johnbudd1350@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:49:01 JST jollybudd1350 🎄 :njp: 🎄
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  @JSDorn @AnimeTradCath @Boomerman @MechaSilvio @RowdyRamzan @WashedOutGundamPilot @mkultra Yeah the response was bad. Now with more info this seems like a nothingburger though
  
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- JSDorn (jsdorn@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:49:01 JST JSDorn
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  @johnbudd1350 @AnimeTradCath @Boomerman @MechaSilvio @RowdyRamzan @WashedOutGundamPilot @mkultra the context I'm more interested in is that I think Conte wanted the org to become more serious and better organized and Mile doesn't want that.
  
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- JSDorn (jsdorn@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 05:49:33 JST JSDorn
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  @MechaSilvio @johnbudd1350 @AnimeTradCath @Boomerman @RowdyRamzan @WashedOutGundamPilot @mkultra I find it very distasteful that Conte's "Goebbelsesqe" speeches were previously praised by the NJP people as good propaganda and were then used by some of them as evidence of his craziness after this came out.
  
  Part of the response they did I don't like.
  
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- JSDorn (jsdorn@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 07:32:12 JST JSDorn
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  @Giga_Vril_Breaker @MechaSilvio @AnimeTradCath @Boomerman @RowdyRamzan @WashedOutGundamPilot @johnbudd1350 @mkultra I think he was very concerned with being stuck with personal liability for whatever malfeasance might have been going on.
  
  I think they owed him an explanation when he first asked for one.
  
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- Giga Vril Breaker (giga_vril_breaker@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 07:32:13 JST Giga Vril Breaker
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  @JSDorn @MechaSilvio @AnimeTradCath @Boomerman @RowdyRamzan @WashedOutGundamPilot @johnbudd1350 @mkultra Maybe but him turning on a dime to create a lot of hullabaloo in an already hostile climate, I'm surprised him being called crazy is the most we got here.
  
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- Giga Vril Breaker (giga_vril_breaker@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 07:32:38 JST Giga Vril Breaker
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  @JSDorn @AnimeTradCath @Boomerman @MechaSilvio @RowdyRamzan @WashedOutGundamPilot @johnbudd1350 @mkultra Jury's still out on what exactly they'd discussed before he burst out publically.
  
  But tell me, say you're a founding member of what you believe to be an "engine to save the white race". You catch whiff of something off in the finances, you don't like it. However, you have no decisive proof of anything. You should also be aware, after being hounded for years by the system, that shit like that coming out is extremely serious for a WN org. It can break the org and hurt a lot of good people.
  
  If you're in an actual sane state of mind, is your instinct to go balls to the wall whistleblower? Without definite proof? Risking everything?
  
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