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1. Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Apr-2024 21:33:26 JST Aral Balkan

   Is it just me or is Ubuntu basically the Windows of Linux now?

   #Linux #Ubuntu #Windows

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Apr-2024 21:40:02 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Asad Sayeed

     @asayeed I was more talking about the upselling, etc.

   • Asad Sayeed (asayeed@zirk.us)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Apr-2024 21:40:03 JST Asad Sayeed

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     @aral inevitable for anything that wants to have out-of-the-box device support for any reasonable number of laptops etc with dodgy closed hardware

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 00:11:02 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Azuaron

     @Azuaron Yeah, that’s why I’m going with Alma for the small web stuff. (Ideally, I would have loved to go with CoreOS but the Fedora/Hetzner folks weren’t interested enough in getting it running on Hetzner and a couple of years is likely long enough to wait for it. Maybe if one day there’s affordable CoreOS hosting, I’ll switch. In the meanwhile, ten years of support is good enough to get started with.) :)

   • Azuaron (azuaron@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 00:11:03 JST Azuaron

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     @aral You know it's bad when the SECURITY UPDATES are paywalled.

     "Get more security updates through Ubuntu Pro"

     After 8 years, next Linux install I do will NOT be Ubuntu.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 00:11:47 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Tim Bondy

     @TimBondy It’s not because it’s easy to use but because it has ads and upselling baked in. And don’t get me started on Snaps :)

   • Tim Bondy (timbondy@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 00:11:48 JST Tim Bondy

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     @aral

     I can certainly understand why Linux operating systems have such a low home/small business user rate. Even the Linux community doesn't like the easier to use Linux operating systems.

     I still maintain a Mint OS laptop knowing eventually, I'll need to use it as my primary computer. But I'm just a dumb retired home computer user. Maybe I should look for a different OS? But I probably won't as the learning curve is too steep even with the Mint OS.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 00:13:04 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Pēteris Krišjānis

     @peteriskrisjanis 🤷♂️

   • Pēteris Krišjānis (peteriskrisjanis@toot.lv)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 00:13:05 JST Pēteris Krišjānis

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     @aral no. You might not like it - i use different distributions - but calling it Windows is not matching any comparition.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 00:14:19 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Jelle Haandrikman

     @jhaand 🎺 DUM-DA-DUMMM!!! 🎶

   • Jelle Haandrikman (jhaand@mas.to)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 00:14:20 JST Jelle Haandrikman

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     @aral No it's Ubuntu.

     The business operating system running on Linux.

   • Asad Sayeed (asayeed@zirk.us)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 00:27:52 JST Asad Sayeed

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     • Kevin

     @kevin @aral There's always a tension between widespread acceptance and not replicating MS' flaws. My feeling is that the more Linux looks like MS in certain characteristics, the more hardware is supported out of the box. The biggest barrier to using Linux is still the driver/kernel shenanigans you have to do.

   • Kevin (kevin@dice.camp)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 00:27:53 JST Kevin

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     • Asad Sayeed

     @asayeed @aral That does suck, agreed, and a reason for me to move to another distro at some point.

   • Asad Sayeed (asayeed@zirk.us)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 00:27:54 JST Asad Sayeed

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     • Kevin

     @kevin @aral it's the pro and other support level stuff I think

   • Kevin (kevin@dice.camp)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 00:27:55 JST Kevin

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     • Asad Sayeed

     @aral @asayeed It's my main OS and I don't get upsold on anything at all. Am I missing something or accidentally turn it off (which I'm fine with)?

   • Kevin (kevin@dice.camp)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 00:28:28 JST Kevin

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     • Asad Sayeed

     @asayeed @aral Hardware compat is pretty much why I use Ubuntu currently.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 04:51:39 JST Aral Balkan

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     • cameronbosch :endeavourOS:

     @cameronbosch Yeah, but sometimes the best we can do is survive on the dregs of corporate America (I’m running Fedora Silverblue) 🤷♂️

     (Isn’t capitalism fucking amazing?)

   • cameronbosch :endeavourOS: (cameronbosch@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 04:51:40 JST cameronbosch :endeavourOS:

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     @aral RHEL is worse. It's literally an IBM Linux system now.