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1. errhead (errhead@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 17-Feb-2023 16:03:24 JST errhead

   @errhead@noagendatube.com like butter

   • silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Friday, 17-Feb-2023 16:03:21 JST silverpill

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     • Alex Gleason
     • unsafe { Sir Alecks Gates }

     @alex @agates @errhead @errhead

     AP spec states that servers should delete objects when they receive Delete() activity: https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#delete-activity-inbox

     Usually this activity is only delievered to followers so for everyone else the object remains in place.

   • Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 17-Feb-2023 16:03:22 JST Alex Gleason

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     • unsafe { Sir Alecks Gates }
     • silverpill

     @agates @errhead @errhead This is not a section of AP I’m too familiar with. @silverpill might be a better person to ask.

   • errhead (errhead@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 17-Feb-2023 16:03:23 JST errhead

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     @errhead@noagendatube.com

     Curious, the deleted post doesn't show up in the thread on PeerTube, Mastodon, or Soapbox. It does still appear on the thread on Podverse and Podcastindex

   • unsafe { Sir Alecks Gates } (agates@activitypub.agates.io)'s status on Friday, 17-Feb-2023 16:03:23 JST unsafe { Sir Alecks Gates }

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     • Alex Gleason
     @errhead Looks like it hasn't been removed from the comments collection. That could be caching or it might not be removed at all.
     
     @alex What is the generally expected behavior in a situation like this? We're trying to determine what AP servers do/expect when comments are "deleted" or "hidden" from a thread if you don't control the originating server.
   • unsafe { Sir Alecks Gates } (agates@activitypub.agates.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 01:57:04 JST unsafe { Sir Alecks Gates }

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     • Alex Gleason
     • silverpill
     @silverpill
     
     Okay, that's good to know.
     
     I guess the other part we're thinking of is this:
     
     Say you start/own a thread for comments on a podcast or video. Someone from another instance makes a reply directly to the top-level AP object with highly illegal content and you want to delete it on your side to prevent it from being seen by others.
     
     While it's marked as deleted in your "gui", as peertube appears to be doing, should we expect to omit the "deleted" object from the replies/comments collection?
     
     Or do we merely rely on reporting + moderation and hope it's deleted eventually, even though we might not see the deleted activity?
     
     @alex @errhead @errhead
   • silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 01:57:04 JST silverpill

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     • Alex Gleason
     • unsafe { Sir Alecks Gates }
     • Week in Fediverse

     @agates @errhead @errhead @alex This case is not covered by existing standards. I'm not familiar with how PeerTube implements replies/comments collection, but I would simply remove the offending object from the collection.
     Perhaps you'll be able to find some useful info here: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-5624-per-object-reply-control-policies/2723

     Also, what's the current state of AP support in your application (Podverse?). Is it ready for production use? If so, I could include it in my @weekinfediverse weekly newsletter.