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1. Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 19:56:51 JST Branman65🍟

   • Lichelord Godfrey
   • Zettour
   • flux_the_cat (too cool for soundcloud)
   @lichelordgodfrey @flux_the_cat @Zettour >lucas is better at worldbuilding than directing
   that makes a whole lot of sense
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   • Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:26:09 JST Branman65🍟

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     @lichelordgodfrey @flux_the_cat @Zettour kill jedi behead jedi lauch jedi into space without a spacesuit blow up a jedi ship freeze jedi in carbonate and break them to pieces sick clones on jedi total jedi death
   • Lichelord Godfrey (lichelordgodfrey@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:26:10 JST Lichelord Godfrey

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     @branman65 @flux_the_cat @Zettour Also, I am over-analyzing the "light" and "dark" sides, because it's usually just "good" vs. "evil" with the sith engaging in blood magicks and shit.

     Star Wars Dark Forces/Dark Forces 2/Jedi Outcast and books involving Luke's new jedi academy abolished a lot of the ultra austere stuff the old jedi order did and were able to let people fall in love, get married, etc, and be normal but also not be evil or too self-sacrificing.

   • Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:26:10 JST Branman65🍟

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     • flux_the_cat (too cool for soundcloud)
     @lichelordgodfrey @flux_the_cat @Zettour yeah the old jedi were evil
   • Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:26:11 JST Branman65🍟

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     • flux_the_cat (too cool for soundcloud)
     @lichelordgodfrey @flux_the_cat @Zettour also when I watched empire strikes back last night I wanted luke to stab yoda with his lightsaber and join the dark side aka the based side
   • Lichelord Godfrey (lichelordgodfrey@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:26:11 JST Lichelord Godfrey

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     @branman65 @flux_the_cat @Zettour If you really start delving into Star Wars, you'll quickly find that both "light" and "dark" are just two extremes and self-annihilate each other. This wasn't intentional and wasn't fleshed out much by Lucas originally.

     "Light" side characters are altruistic and self-sacrificing to the point of their own destruction.

     "Dark" side characters are passionate, jealous, and can't tolerate being under someone else's rule for long without trying to usurp them, also unto their own destruction.

     "Grey" jedi are moral cowards afraid to pick a side at best; vaguely good guys at worst and not really "grey" just more willing to break the law to do some good.

     There is no "based" side in those parameters, though there are Expanded Universe books where it is revealed that the majority of the Galactic Empire enjoys peace and prosperity, even the non-humans, as the empire routs out and destroys pirates and brigands constantly. That the "Rebel Alliance" is led by some ex-nobles looking to get their fortunes back and to restore a republic that was dying to infighting in the first place, even before Palpatine.

     I always liked playing as the Empire factions in games that let you do it. I was looking forward to a sequel to "Republic Commando" where it's "Imperial Commando", but I know better now that it would probably just have them defect to the rebels eventually anyway, even if Disney had never bought Star Wars. Which would be lame.

   • Lichelord Godfrey (lichelordgodfrey@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:26:12 JST Lichelord Godfrey

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     @branman65 @flux_the_cat @Zettour watch most of the scenes in the original & prequel trilogy for stuff in the background. there are so many scenes that video games/literature/comics were built out of, or from one-off comments by characters.

     "Many Bothans died to bring us these plans" was just filler originally. There wasn't much of an idea of what a "Bothan" was.

     Expanded Universe made them into dog people and they even waged jihad against an extra-galactic threat. The latter is impressive, because they're all manlets.

     There isn't as much of that in the sequels, and the constant quippy "funny" dialogue is grating. The only thing that comes close to it in annoyance are the combat droids showing emotion and feeling "pain" in episode 2 and 3, but that is definitely just something for kids to laugh at and not something I can be butthurt about.

     As a child I loved the prequels, even with the horrible dialogue. I can't enjoy the dialogue anymore because I grew up, though the fighting scenes are still fun. The only annoying aspect is the perpetual fencing that lightsaber users do, and pretty much never pushing their advantage to just slice a nigga in half.. but again, that's PG/PG-13 rating and it's meant for kids.

     I think the goriest they ever get is Han Solo frozen in carbonite and Jango Fett's head falling out of his helmet. You only see the shadow of the head falling out, though.

   • Lichelord Godfrey (lichelordgodfrey@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:26:57 JST Lichelord Godfrey

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     @branman65 @flux_the_cat @Zettour the expanded universe stuff involving Luke and his new jedi academy answers how they could have done things differently to not have a constant see-saw back and forth of "light" vs. "dark".

     SWKOTOR 2 sees the constant play of the two sides as inherent and seeks to destroy "the force" itself.

     I thought KOTOR2 is more interesting.