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1. iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 23:41:52 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:
   oh nice. the seagates are bus powered now :blobcat3c:
   
   my last one required external power which is why it became a tripping hazard (which, is how it died.)
   
   :comfyglare: i bought two this time. we gonna mirrored set up in this bitch.
   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 23:41:44 JST 

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     @Pawlicker @icedquinn In my experience shucking the drives and connecting them directly to SATA is faster than connecting them over USB3. Though that might've been a quirk with a drive I used, it always spun down after inactivity and then took a shitton of time to access the data again; I used to have a script that dd's a small file and removes it every 10 seconds before eventually getting another SATA card and connecting it internally instead.
   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 23:41:45 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     @icedquinn it's not the protocol
     It's the hardware itself
   • iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 23:41:46 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:

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     @Pawlicker USB-C ain't that slow :blobfoxfloofowo: i used an older usbc for years and it was fine. although my expectations are "hold files it would be neat to still have, but i need more space for something more relevant"
   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 23:41:47 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     @icedquinn hahah oh man you're going to be asking if it's failed
     Spoiler: it's just that slow
   • iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 23:41:48 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:

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     @Pawlicker oh i don't think these are archival drives. it's just two 5tb portables.
     
     archivals are pretty neat but they have... real specific uses.
   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 23:41:49 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     @icedquinn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingled_magnetic_recording
   • iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 23:41:50 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:

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     @Pawlicker wot?
   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 23:41:51 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     @icedquinn get ready for SMR 🤣
   • iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 23:44:53 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:

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     @mint @Pawlicker there is a time for a dedicated NAS, and a time for a pile of disks. :comfywoozy:
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   • 7666 (7666@comp.lain.la)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 23:49:31 JST 7666

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     @mint @Pawlicker @icedquinn USB to SATA controllers are usually pretty shit.
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   • Susanna (susie@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Apr-2024 00:10:04 JST Susanna

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     @7666 @Pawlicker @icedquinn @mint eSATA was the future we were denied :blobcatsadhug:
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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Apr-2024 00:11:17 JST 

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     @icedquinn @Pawlicker @susie @7666 That was Thunderbolt which exposes PCIe bus. Even before that you could attach GPUs to chinkpads with ExpressCard (another hotpluggable PCIe slot type) via adapter, it's fun.
   • iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Apr-2024 00:11:18 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:

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     @susie @7666 @Pawlicker @mint i think apple did some esata stuff for gpus
   • Susanna (susie@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Apr-2024 00:28:59 JST Susanna

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     @icedquinn @7666 @Pawlicker @mint I used eSATA a lot on my X5650 (X58) system around 2012-2019. Back when motherboards had tons of connectors and costed only pennies. I was then dumbfounded that my new motherboard didn't have a single eSATA port, only one PCIe port and costed twice the amount of that old motherboard in 2020 (also no three channel memory, but I guess that isn't important in DDR4 era).
     
     "Thankfully" my HDD-dock also came with USB3 so I didn't have to buy anything new to do backups.
     
     But for "real" archiving, the only certified method of doing it is to burn archiving quality CD-R discs with maximum of 20 years self life before replicating the data to a new CD. Nope, not even DVDs or Blurays ever got certified for archival due to them being too dense mediums or some such. HDD RAIDs and tapes are also deemed too dangerous, even though those are what everyone uses these days lol
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