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@wgiwf @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave >the unspoken tradition of ignoring church authorities when they say stupid shit helps.
The highlight of the post IMO.
>Maybe the interface of a pastor with his congregation is different than a priest with the rules and regs he follows, idk if it makes a difference.
From what I'm told, yes and no. The Pope can and does say stuff that makes all Catholics wish he'd cloister himself for a while and never talk to the press again. The priest has to listen to the bishop, although there's extra stuff for some of them. In Eastern churches, a Parrish priest actually has a decent bit of protection from the bishop trying to meddle in things too much. Heresies and things that will lead people away from Christ are obviously something else entirely. One of the benefits of having many centuries of Church tradition is that we have something akin to common law precedent, and there's no major changes that could get in the way of that which could be decreed by a Bishop.
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@BowsacNoodle @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave Non-Catholics often don't realize how little the Pope means for the day to day activities of your church, the priest(s) and the bishop are much more capable of making or breaking it. The Pope is aloof of things like King Charles III, but with actual power though.
>From what I'm told, yes and no.
I don't know how protestant pastors handle things tbh. I just wonder if the more freeform style may lead to some sort of situation where political/cultural one upmanship might be more prevalent there, hence rainbow flags as an appeal to cultural authority, ect.
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@BowsacNoodle @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave The sky is falling attitude is odd to me, tbh. Maybe it's my personal experience talking and the fact that where I am there are no shortage traditional leaning churches and even sedevacantists; living in a metro area can have benefits in this regard, and the unspoken tradition of ignoring church authorities when they say stupid shit helps. Maybe the interface of a pastor with his congregation is different than a priest with the rules and regs he follows, idk if it makes a difference.
But to deny yourself the communion and fellowship isn't good at all. If you truly can't find a "based church" around you, you may want reconsider your base assumptions about what you need in a church, not necessarily one that conforms to your politics; remember, we live in a totalitarian state that has its demonic hands in everything. Just saying no to fag "marriage" and abortion is an act of rebellion against the system's wishes. You're going to church and receiving communion because Christ tells you to, not to affirm your racial or political beliefs.
If nothing else, Superlutheran's Catacomb Synod may work for you. Something is better than nothing at all; I see people here that say that no church is good enough for them then spout heresy because of it.
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@dictatordave @idea_enjoyer God will not be mocked. I've seen people go to church begrudgingly or thinking they would mock the whole thing and take away a ton from it. Sometimes it's the spark that they need to change their ways.
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Maybe you need to attend a larger variety of American churches, you are unaware of their basic uselessness
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@idea_enjoyer @dictatordave >Maybe you need to attend a larger variety of American churches
I travel and sometimes visit churches in the Midwest or southeast. Fine enough for me, although I stick to Eastern Catholic, Roman Catholic, or Orthodox. There's an hour away from me with a huge rainbow flag on it, which makes me very sad and uneasy.
I have a few younger millennial friends who are pastors in various denominations, and they've all said the same thing: conservative churches are growing, modernist liberal ones are declining. I'm not excited at the thought of an old church shutting its doors, especially when it might turn into a mosque or something incredibly gay, but it is comforting to know that the church is getting "leaner and meaner" with much of the growth in the most traditionalist churches. I expect this to continue as society gets worse.
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@idea_enjoyer it is interesting that some troon would think going to a building at a specific time would change them or be 'experiencing christianity'
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Here's the shitty part
Most American churches would invite him right in with a minimum of fuss. I try to defend Christianity but I sure can't defend the modern church. It's horrible.
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