@ShemsBorealis @Anon_Z @Sui @JoePrich @matty @Jewpacabra @sickburnbro On a moral level, yes, all are degraded. On a physical level, the male is less likely to experience transmissible diseases and long term effects such as cervical cancer. Ethically, the lack of disclosure by the woman to her incipient husband indicates she is dishonest at her core.

In general males that do a group sex thing are considered participants in something grotesque. The woman is considered the grotesque object for having been the subject of the behavior.

It's not fair or evenhanded. I'm just saying what I think about this weird situation. Overall it is very sad, especially for the unborn child.