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1. synapsid (synapsid@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 02:43:33 JST synapsid
   If you support polygamy you are a nigger. No 'but it's based bro', you are spiritually African and you should go to Somalia to be with your fellow 'based' polygamists.
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   • Punished Misako (dullahan@mashtodon.alterracloud.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 02:43:30 JST Punished Misako

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     @Omega_Variant @CharlesSynyard @synapsid @MeBigbrain that's retarded, having a single wife is the bedrock of a successful civilization.
   • Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 02:43:31 JST Omega Variant

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     Prolly catch heat for this but w/e
     
     Bible doesn't condemn polygyny but does condemn polyandry. OT specifically gives guidelines for polygyny.
     
     Quite a few people in the OT had multiple wives and not a peep was said of it.
     
     What do I make of this? Multiple wives is permissable as long as the man provides for them and does not diminish his duty to any one of them. Perhaps the idea it was better for a man to take on multiple women rather than the women being destitute, turn to whoredom or be subject to slavery.
     
     That said I think the family unit is ideally a single man and woman and God's "preferred" amount as church leadership are to be "the husband of one wife". However if one can meet the OT requirements for multiple wives it is not a sin.
   • Christmas Coon (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 02:43:32 JST Christmas Coon

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     @synapsid Jesus Christ described marriage as two made one flesh, and that's good enough for me.
   • Charles Synyard (charlessynyard@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 02:43:32 JST Charles Synyard

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     @MeBigbrain @synapsid No, if you can become one flesh with a prostitute too, then a husband can easily be one flesh with several wives in turn. Jesus would have said clearly that polygamy was no longer okay if that was what He meant.
   • スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 03:31:00 JST スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z:

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     @synapsid only ONE wife, until death. no adultery, no divorce.
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   • Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 03:43:35 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     @synapsid Polygamy is feminism. It's the ability of multiple women to take the best men from society and deny the lowlier the wives due to them. It creates a harem system that will ruin nations, the ancient Israelites. And turns your sons against you as multiple mothers vie for supremacy within the "family".
   • Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 03:43:35 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     @synapsid And to those who think the ancient Israelites are something we should aspire to, the ones who God destroyed the temple of their covenant twice for their sins, is a fool. The old covenant is superseded and buried, fulfilled by the cross. There is no temple to sacrifice to; the laws of Moses are void. And the sacred tradition of the church teaches us that polygamy is an abomination. Refusing the communion and wisdom of a sensible church and thinking yourself better than them, doing the whole "me and my bible alone under the tree", leads to error and potential heresy.

     Matthew 3 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one’s wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who made them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one’?[a] 6 So they are no longer two but one.[b] What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder.” 7 They said to him, “Why then did Moses command one to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?” 8 He said to them, “For your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for unchastity,[c] and marries another, commits adultery; and he who marries a divorced woman, commits adultery

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   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 03:45:55 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @wgiwf @synapsid I might be willing to tacitly tolerate polygamy in a pinch after a depopulation event that disproportionately kills men in order to quickly boost numbers, but in a stable society with roughly equal sex ratios monogamy is a must.
   • CEO of Monoeye Dating (ceo_of_monoeye_dating@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 19:10:35 JST CEO of Monoeye Dating

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     • Charles Synyard
     @SuperSnekFriend @CharlesSynyard @wgiwf >9 bajillion words about what ink on pen says about monogamy
     >Barely one word about the fact that you can literally just pray and ask if it's wrong and get the answer "yeah duh."
     
     God's right there just go fucking ask holy shit. :smug1:
   • ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️ (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 19:10:36 JST ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️

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     • Charles Synyard
     @CharlesSynyard @wgiwf >However, the sister-wives, while enjoying a special relationship, are not married to one another.
     Irrelevant! The pattern God established in Genesis 2:24 and the Seventh Commandment is why polygamy is wrong. A man having more wives to himself than the first living one is what constitutes sin. That is what is being argued. Saying or implying that we claim pro-polygamists believe wives are married to each other is a strawman. Cut that out.
     >but should not be taken over-literally
     Nobody is taking the words Christ speaks in Matthew 19 "over-literally" but you. Christ is making a commentary on the proper didactic use of Genesis' historical narrative to establish God's moral law on marriage, divorce, and all sexual ethics. There is a strict boundary on the amount of women you may take because the pattern God establishes at Creation is the two and only two, the man and woman, are made one flesh in a marriage covenant. The number "two" doesn't exist in the Hebrew, but Christ added it to attack the polygamous Herod, Caiaphas, and other would-be polygamists.
     You have not countered the argument except going "nun-uh". You have not exegeted Matthew 19, except throwing an out-of-context reference to 1 Corinthians 6, itself not being exegetted, as if Paul's use of σάρκα μίαν is the exact same as Christ' for the exact same purpose but against Christ' usage supposedly reducing the legal impact of Christ' words on us all.
     
     That is not acceptable handling of God's Word for any professing Christian.
   • Charles Synyard (charlessynyard@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 19:10:37 JST Charles Synyard

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     @wgiwf That can be a confusing point, which I didn’t realize until recently was throwing myself and others off. Marriage is always a covenant between the man and the woman; polygamy can strike the observer as a kind of group marriage and so clearly wrong. However, the sister-wives, while enjoying a special relationship, are not married to one another. Fundamentally, polygyny isn’t different than a single marriage, just the same thing repeated over. The clearest descriptions are therefore plural marriage (because more of the same), or even more precisely, concurrent marriages—though that doesn’t have the euharmonic quality of plural marriage.
     
     On that second point, it might be nice were it that way, but Akshually, see I Corinthians 6:15-17. “Shall I take the members of Christ and unite them to a prostitute?” I would not utter the words, which makes it sound like some kind of gross, and blasphemous MMF threesome, but that is how St. Paul describes the significance of seeing a prostitute. Point being, the words of the Lord in Genesis and Christ in the Gospel are significant and poetic, but should not be taken over-literally, in order to contravene polygyny, which the body was clearly designed for, and was practiced and accepted by our forefathers for as long as metalworking and musical instruments have been around.
   • Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 19:10:38 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     @CharlesSynyard @synapsid @MeBigbrain This is the same line of argument used by liberal churches to claim that faggot "marriage" is ok. "If he didn't want it to happen he would've said so". There is an unstated assumption here that Christ is taking about marriage between one man and woman, as in accordance with context and reason. He doesn't need to state what is the obvious truth here, it is known by all involved already.
     Also becoming one flesh means becoming one body with your spouse through the sacrament of marriage, not sex.
   • ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️ (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 19:11:00 JST ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️

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     @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @CharlesSynyard @wgiwf >9 bajillion words about what ink on pen says about monogamy
     I know you guys don't like us ignoring the 2nd and 3rd Century anti-Biblical fanfics written by fake apostles, but would it kill you Gnostics to show a modicum of respect to Biblical studies and to not blaspheme God and the living Word breathed out by God as mere ink on a papyrus?
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   • Lichelord Godfrey (lichelordgodfrey@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 19:18:44 JST Lichelord Godfrey

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     • Charles Synyard

     @SuperSnekFriend @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @CharlesSynyard @wgiwf oh okay so the charles guy wasn't baiting. I guess he likes chaos and degeneracy.

     I hope he likes genetic bottlenecks, too, because normalizing polygamy will cause that in the extreme.

     there are a lot of non-religious reasons to say "no, monogamy is good and polygamy is bad" to go alongside with biblical reasons.

     1. less "incels"/men who lose the genetic lottery
     2. more genetic diversity within an ethnic/racial population
     3. less inheritance issues
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   • Punished Misako (dullahan@mashtodon.alterracloud.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 19:20:08 JST Punished Misako

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     @lichelordgodfrey @CharlesSynyard @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @SuperSnekFriend @wgiwf living in a country where some men might have more than one wife, I can say for certain that a guy who practices polygamy has weird family. Everything is so disconnected and harmony barely exists.