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1. Chineseman 🟥 #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 07:06:24 JST Chineseman 🟥 #nobot
   Their ass is not playing. The story broke yesterday lamo
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 07:10:43 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @IAMAL_PHARIUS Boeing is still better because (with a capable white guy at the helm) it still has enough redundancies and manual control to let you bring it back down safely.

     Airbus just straight up kills you when something goes wrong, you're begging the software for your life

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 07:20:01 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @pepsi_man @IAMAL_PHARIUS You can't do anything to airbus if the system is faulty, every control input is just a request, it decides whether or not to listen to you.

     Boeing follows the older style for now, since it's largely the same stuff they designed in the 70's - you have more latitude to shut stupid shit off and fly by hand. If the niggers had done that in the MAX it wouldn't have been as fatal, but that's who the airbus is made for - managers, not pilots. Niggers, not pilots

   • pepsi_man (pepsi_man@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 07:20:02 JST pepsi_man

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     • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @IAMAL_PHARIUS
     >begging the software for your life
     My brother in christ, what would even be the point of a checklist?
   • Jolly Rancher (not_br549@jollyville.net)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 08:17:18 JST Jolly Rancher

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     • pepsi_man
     Many such stories on Mentour Pilot and Mayday channels.
     
     Boeings that lost hydraulics, or electric systems, or ran out of gas in midair, and they managed to land them in one piece, or at least not as many pieces as an outright crash. Some of the controls still have mechanical cables going from cockpit back to control surfaces.
     
     There was a story of an Airbus doing checkrides, the instructor was doing something on each go-around that caused a computer fault. He went through the redundant computers, one by one, until all had stopped (for no good reason). They were lucky to survive the checkride, as the instructor had to improvise to get it down.
     Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks likes this.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 08:20:02 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @not_br549 @IAMAL_PHARIUS @pepsi_man I was just talking about the diff. in design the other day. What's funny is that boeing doesn't WANT to be the way they are anymore, though a portion of their clients wish they'd stay the old school way - they assume the way forward is polishing their aircraft to be managed by 300-hour chinks and african SICs

     https://poa.st/objects/72a47ba8-cff0-41b6-958c-6748e7be8138

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 08:22:57 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • pepsi_man

     @pepsi_man @IAMAL_PHARIUS Because the euros aren't hiring a technician base that prioritizes diversity, and their C-suites aren't run by ambivalent executives who could not care less about safety as long as they can cut costs.

     The high-profile stuff lately was just as much united's fault as it was boeing's - it's up to them to service it and United certainly isn't known for hiring quality people.

     It's a race to the bottom over here. That's why I'd rather undergo civilizational collapse in a boeing than an airbus - at least I got a fighting chance with a competent crew in the boeing. The same pajeet code in an airbus won't leave as much to skill

   • pepsi_man (pepsi_man@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 08:22:58 JST pepsi_man

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot
     Also of those are the wrong things to do. How is Airbus not having similar issues as Boeing?
     @IAMAL_PHARIUS
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 08:27:38 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • pepsi_man

     @birdulon @IAMAL_PHARIUS @pepsi_man They aren't that different in the long run, Airbus has the same lice that Boeing does, the latter is just more advanced in its dx

     The solution is....getting rid of our domestic capacity and then buying Comacs?

   • 🐦ulon :blobshp: (birdulon@shpposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 08:27:39 JST 🐦ulon :blobshp:

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @IAMAL_PHARIUS @pepsi_man I'm almost feeling ghoulish here and wishing one of your precious guys went down to Boeing's talmuddery, but I suspect you'd just disown the guy for trusting the type rating instead of correctly assuming the worst of Boeing.
   • Jolly Rancher (not_br549@jollyville.net)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 11:07:17 JST Jolly Rancher

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     • pepsi_man
     https://invidious.poast.org/watch?v=04M63B1sv_Y
     
     Here is the story I was talking about. I'm not a pilot, but I've become interested in the craft, as a result of watching pilot guys on the interwebs. My brother got his license at 71, so he can do hobby flying . . but yeah, nah, I'll just watch thanks. You actually can be too old for some things.
     
     So it was a series of failures. Pilots in training, and silencing annoying nuisance alarms. Hand-overriding controls to speed up the touch-and-go training landings.
     
     Interestingly, Mentour Pilot said one thing Airbus changed was to forbid resetting the flight control computers in-flight. That's the ticket, make it harder for the pilot to correct this clusterfuck.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 11:07:17 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @not_br549 @IAMAL_PHARIUS @pepsi_man Yeah, I really don't like the philosophy behind it at all. Every time I'm talking to checkride preppers about theirs it's one gay electronic nanny system after the other.

     I don't find the boeings all THAT dangerous, since 90% of what I"m flying now is about 10 to 30 times more likely to kill me.....aren't any redundant systems on GA stuff. I'm only one corroded spar away from eating shit.