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1. CrunkLord420 (crunklord420@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 11-Mar-2024 12:48:21 JST CrunkLord420
   Getting closer to CyberChud 2's development start.
   
   I'm cringing thinking about all the things I need to fix/smooth over. I still need to figure out how to properly handle flipped normal maps in the BSP format.
   • CrunkLord420 (crunklord420@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 11-Mar-2024 16:01:56 JST CrunkLord420

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     • Terry Hendrix II 🏹
     @thendrix yeah it's way more complicated because of the way the BSP stores that information. I've had to dig through a lot of source ports to figure it out, because normal mapping in quake is weird.
   • Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Monday, 11-Mar-2024 16:01:57 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     You can flip them in the shader pretty easy.

   • CrunkLord420 (crunklord420@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 11-Mar-2024 16:05:23 JST CrunkLord420

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     • Terry Hendrix II 🏹
     @thendrix the UV texture values are stored in the BSP, but not directly it uses two 3D vectors and a scale.
   • Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Monday, 11-Mar-2024 16:05:24 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     Oh, you’re still using it for rendering? I thought everyone mostly used it just for physics by now. You could cook to mesh offline. OMG that was a bad time period for LDs.

   • CrunkLord420 (crunklord420@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 11-Mar-2024 16:08:16 JST CrunkLord420

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     • Terry Hendrix II 🏹
     @thendrix I also basically turn the map inside out in order to flip the axis to Y-Up. I also scale it to 1 meter units. https://gitgud.io/CrunkLord420/cyberchud/-/blob/master/src/bsp_parse.c
   • CrunkLord420 (crunklord420@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 11-Mar-2024 16:10:54 JST CrunkLord420

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     • Terry Hendrix II 🏹
     @thendrix yeah, the modern BSP compilers have tons of options. ericw uses a path tracing library from Intel.
   • Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Monday, 11-Mar-2024 16:10:55 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     You still using the lightmaps too?

   • CrunkLord420 (crunklord420@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 11-Mar-2024 16:12:22 JST CrunkLord420

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     • Terry Hendrix II 🏹
     @thendrix like part of the issue with the normal maps is I can bake the average incoming line tangent into a texture. So I can have baked speculator lighting in combination with dynamic speculator lighting. My shader is weird because I have shadowcasting baked lights in combination with dynamic lights with shadowmaps.
   • Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Monday, 11-Mar-2024 16:13:10 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     Oh interesting… I would have thought it would’ve been more like the transition period in the industry for people using the engine now.

   • CrunkLord420 (crunklord420@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 11-Mar-2024 16:13:10 JST CrunkLord420

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     • Terry Hendrix II 🏹
     @thendrix the people who did the Quake Remaster/new expansion pack made some contributions to the ericw BSP compiler.