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1. Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:14:00 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

   Babe wake up they published another obscure government report shitting on modern fighters: https://www.cbo.gov/publication/58687

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:15:53 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     OOPSIE WOOPSIE NO REFUNDS

     Hey maybe you could hire Boeing to modernize and overhaul these and you can find some fantasy system that lowers maintenance

     (literally what they say after saying “uh it’s gonna get worse, but maybe they’ll solve it with money or something”)

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:16:57 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     I want you friggin’ niggerwallops to look at this graph, internalize it, and understand that THIS is the BEST your navy has right now.

     THIS is what you go to war with, and you’re looking at 40% availability for your fighter/strike mainstay

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:20:43 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • JSDorn

     @JSDorn That’s what’s so fun! Of COURSE they are!

     Turns out one of the issues of using all those fancy metals in constructing a plane that lives at sea for 50 years - they corrode like, super fast.

     Aw shucks

   • JSDorn (jsdorn@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:20:44 JST JSDorn

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot the super hornets are already overhauled though aren't they?
   • JSDorn (jsdorn@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:23:44 JST JSDorn

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot who would have thought right!
     
     The original designers definitely didn't contemplate though how much abuse these airframes would get
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:25:34 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • JSDorn

     @JSDorn Like I was saying the other day: We had brand new fighters rolling out of development in 1937 that were eyed for replacement in 1941

     This is utter insanity, the way we treat planes is insane to me. All this legal shit has done it to the civvie side, but the military is all money.

     I often wonder how it would feel to walk into the draft studio of the guy designing the C152 and tell him “hey bud, guess how many of these are still flying and flight training in 2023? 62%“

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:26:18 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     “hahah we’ll fuckin obliterate those chin-sorry, ma’am, I mean those…uh….Chine-china- Chai…….I’m sorry what’s the appropriate non-racist term, Lt. Shaneeq’D’kwanda?”

     “Ioh-know, Call ‘em crackers”

     “Yes ma’am, anyways we’ll annihilate those…crackers with this perfectly timed strike, using all 36 of of our Super-“

     “eh, sir? Sorry but we can only field 11.”

     “huh?”

     “yeah…..uh….we got 11 going, and uh…..that’s really scraping the others for parts. If we don’t get fresh planes in the next week we’ll probably only have 3 flying for the next 6 months”

     “fuck”

   • Boomerman (boomerman@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:29:21 JST Boomerman

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:29:21 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Boomerman

     @Boomerman gotta cut those numbers down, starve the white man of his war-glory

   • JSDorn (jsdorn@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:29:26 JST JSDorn

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot absolutely fucking insane.
     
     Poetic how the air force, just like the rest of the country is still living off of the greatness of it's former White civilization, even as it seems to bury every trace of it.
     
     It's easy to remove statues.
     
     I'd like to see them remove all airframes designed by White people, then fight a war against China and Russia
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:29:26 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • JSDorn

     @JSDorn They’ll just keep on extending the life limits like they have. It’s still funny to me how they spend all the lifespan of their fighters flying circles around goats for 20 years

     “ah the guy who drafted it put a max limit of 15,000 hours on it. Let’s bump it up to….we already did? to what? Okay then add ten, twenty thousand to that. Model it in the computer and….I dunno call it 50,000 hours for a lifetime airframe limit”

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:30:24 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     They lop the legs right off of that cope from the start

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:31:47 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     Uh…..so they’re only a TAD better than the AV-8 HARRIER at its nadir?

     Is that what this is saying?

   • Boomerman (boomerman@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:32:04 JST Boomerman

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     • Boomerman
     @WashedOutGundamPilot Only a quarter of enlisted are white men.
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   • Boomerman (boomerman@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:32:05 JST Boomerman

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot You gotta remember in this chart of that 63% white 18% are women and another 18% roughly are mexicans so subtract 36% from 63 and you got your white male total
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:32:54 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Boomerman

     @Boomerman In my head I estimate half of those are latinX anyways

   • Boomerman (boomerman@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:36:44 JST Boomerman

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     • JSDorn
     @JSDorn @WashedOutGundamPilot Its because they have literal niggers and women trying to do maintenance on a plane being flown everyday while the military cuts numbers. The jets are probably fine but when the first f18s came out you had lots of white men in the military. Now the navy cant even dock a boat without it going up in flames.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:36:44 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Boomerman
     • JSDorn

     @Boomerman @JSDorn I don’t buy it, I’d bet a whole host of avionics issues screw this shit up. There’s a lot of that on the civilian side, I’ve heard of pilatus owners trying to scavenge swiss junkyards for replacements in their factory kit because they didn’t have $180k cash to use for a full overhaul.

     Hell, I think the japs just started making CRTS again since so many of the old honeywell panels need them. It’s hard having someone on the boat who can actually fix avionics, I’d bet the majority of their ‘fixes’ are just removing modules entirely and sending them off for a replacement

   • JSDorn (jsdorn@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:37:01 JST JSDorn

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     • Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum
     @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum @WashedOutGundamPilot it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
     
     
     Actually, it's still funny anyway
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   • Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum (rudolf_von_goldenbaum@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:37:02 JST Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum

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     • JSDorn
     @JSDorn @WashedOutGundamPilot I look forward to the Battletech/40k future where the same tech is recycled for eternity.
   • Boomerman (boomerman@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:37:15 JST Boomerman

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot Total number its probably less when you factor in fags. Under 25% of the US military is white men. Lmao now people can understand why they need uke proxies to fill trenches.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:38:34 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     Don’t worry the air force is much better……kinda….okay so they’re at like 60% too

     Wonderful!

     Just look at that bitchin’ F-22 availability right now, like 44%. Or the F-16, one of our more simple fighters, at a rockin’….41%

   • JSDorn (jsdorn@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:41:46 JST JSDorn

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     • Boomerman
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Boomerman if I recall from some of the juicer incident reports back when the 6th fleet was colliding into everything a couple years ago, they regularly had important equipment completely inoperational for long periods.
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   • PvtProperty (pvtproperty@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:41:55 JST PvtProperty

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot Do you think it has to do with incompetence of the crews or unavailability of parts in time or what?
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:41:55 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • PvtProperty

     @PvtProperty All kinds of stuff. Dumbass crews not knowing how to adequately and comfortably do jobs quickly and effectively, tearing something down and putting it back together only realizing they omitted something deep in the guts, stretching a 14-hour job into a 26-hour one

     Super complex avionics integration with weapons stuff that has phantom niggles they can’t quite figure out. “IDK man, I tried to arm it and the autopilot initiates a go-around, how does that even happen?”

     And like they said - corrosion is worse on some of these lightweight metals.

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:43:05 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Boomerman
     • JSDorn

     @JSDorn @Boomerman I love it when two women are the officers on deck and they aren’t on good terms so people end up dying

     super cool to see, not at all totally horrifying

   • Radians (demonsixone@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:43:12 JST Radians

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot >DoN noted that many factors contributed to the differences in availability of the two types of aircraft, including the greater levels of galvanic corrosion arising from the greater use of composite metals in Super Hornets.
     
     This is something that is well known in modern airliners with the use of glued assemblies with dissimilar metal and composites. Likely a symptom of the greater underway maintenance woes faced by the navy that have been published by the GAO and others.
     
     safetyfirst.airbus.com/app/themes/mh_newsdesk/documents/archives/corrosion-a-potential-safety-issue.pdf
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   • pyrate : sleigh captain (pyrate@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:44:43 JST pyrate : sleigh captain

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     BALLOON MOGS F35
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:45:06 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Radians

     @DemonSixOne Corrosion is terrifying, too. Some of the scarier civil deaths in recent years happen that way. I think there was a Piper arrow 3 years back, had a young kid instructing in florida, wing just cracked right off in midair 2,000’ off the ground, they went down like a britbong at the BoB

     They found out there was no hole to sight the wing spars in those things, so the rest of the planes were kept up but they never saw its spine was being eaten through

   • Boomerman (boomerman@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:45:11 JST Boomerman

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     • JSDorn
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @JSDorn Idk man when i was in the issue was always man power and parts. They had guys doing 14 hour days with no weekends so they could max out flight hours even though they didnt even rise. The amount people went down while work stayed the same.
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   • Boomerman (boomerman@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:49:59 JST Boomerman

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     • JSDorn
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @JSDorn 2015 sequestration was like an atom bomb for manning and a lot of competent loving serving white guys caught the axe were replaced by know nothing women and blacks. The guys who stuck around left after getting fucked with an insane workload. Im sure the super hornets have more problems than the regular jet in the same way a car from the 60s is more reliable than one now. But the demographics are fucked a crew chief shop cant hack it with 25% women and 25% niggers.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:50:04 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Boomerman
     • JSDorn

     @Boomerman @JSDorn That’s where the bulk of it happens.

     Just imagine how much know-how walked out the door. Now THAT’S a shoah

   • Boomerman (boomerman@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:54:02 JST Boomerman

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     • JSDorn
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @JSDorn Would you work through your weekend or just red X a jet? Now pretend youre black or femoid.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:56:01 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • merchantHelios
     • JSDorn

     @merchantHelios @JSDorn I betcha they heard a lot of “well, it’s like like this thing needs to last 50 years, we’ve gone through 20 fighters since we were in high school, it’ll be fine” in that draft office in 1972

   • merchantHelios (merchanthelios@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:56:02 JST merchantHelios

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     • JSDorn
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @JSDorn yeah corrosion is a massive issue for the entire maritime industry, and ships are literally built to spend their entire life in saltwater. Can only imagine the havok sea spray does on planes
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   • Groomschild (groomschild@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:56:13 JST Groomschild

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     • JSDorn
     @JSDorn @WashedOutGundamPilot That's is also a function of the original engineers not having computer simulations so they had to over design alot
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:56:53 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • sargoysmuck
     • Boomerman
     • JSDorn

     @sargoysmuck @Boomerman @JSDorn If you want to see something depressing, go to mitsubishi’s site. It’s all ugly ass CUV’s, with these large links at the bottom advertising the Evo and Eclipse while saying “hey we’ll never make these again, but don’t worry, their fun spirit lives on in the new Mitsubishi Outlander sport!!!!”

   • sargoysmuck (sargoysmuck@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:56:54 JST sargoysmuck

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     • JSDorn
     @Boomerman @WashedOutGundamPilot @JSDorn Can’t compare it to cars, nips made cars then and nips make “somewhat” better ones now. They did peak in the 90-20s but safety and environmental regulations have gotten to the point where you can only copy paste the same cuv and paint it in third party airbags.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:57:59 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • merchantHelios
     • JSDorn

     @merchantHelios @JSDorn They have anodes and stuff, too. I’m not quite sure you can implement that on an aircraft without water to help conduct that ionic transfer or whatever

   • merchantHelios (merchanthelios@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 02:58:00 JST merchantHelios

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     • merchantHelios
     • JSDorn
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @JSDorn ah I should clarify. Corrosion is a massive issue, but not as much for the ship's hull itself - that's more an issue of keeping barnacles from ruining the paint too quickly
   • sparky ⚓ (sparky@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 04:03:41 JST sparky ⚓

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     • Boomerman
     • JSDorn
     @JSDorn @WashedOutGundamPilot @Boomerman Surface fleet's main surface search navigational radar (SPS-67) has been in service for 40ish years and there are dozens of terminal components. Been a rolling cannibalization for years.
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   • sparky ⚓ (sparky@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Feb-2023 04:03:59 JST sparky ⚓

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot >uh it’s gonna get worse, but maybe they’ll solve it with money or something
     
     This is literally how they fixed it last time. Mattis said "get me more super hornet hours" and ADM Richardson said "yessa massa" and backed a dumptruck of cash to WSS Aviation (that was mostly obtained by stealing it from various maritime program budgets).
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   • Dragon Zero (william_the_dragonborn@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 06:45:46 JST Dragon Zero

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     • BroDrillard
     @BroDrillard @WashedOutGundamPilot Yeah the J37 Drakken is well in terms of combat capability as well as the Tornado in regards to powerhouse.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 06:45:46 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Dragon Zero
     • BroDrillard

     @William_The_Dragonborn @BroDrillard This is the real world, niggo, I don't care if your plane is "combat effective to within 98% battlespace capability along a modern force generation axis"

     I care if it can take off and perform as advertised 4 days a week to fly 6-16 hour sorties without breaking the schedule

   • Dragon Zero (william_the_dragonborn@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 06:45:47 JST Dragon Zero

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot At least European fighters are decent
   • BroDrillard (brodrillard@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 06:45:47 JST BroDrillard

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     • Dragon Zero
     Are they? I'd love to see some data.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 06:56:46 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Dragon Zero
     • BroDrillard

     @William_The_Dragonborn @BroDrillard Not when you count the expense you waste when you have to replace pilots though. Robust and pretty durable, but overall a very 60's aircraft

   • Dragon Zero (william_the_dragonborn@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 06:56:47 JST Dragon Zero

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     • BroDrillard
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @BroDrillard In terms of affordability, production rate, and capability the MiG-21 has stood the test of time.