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1. Thomas Wilburn (thomaswilburn@toot.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:32:02 JST Thomas Wilburn

   The last time Google went into a full freakout about a competitor, it killed Reader, tried to jam everything into Plus, and churned through like three IM clients, so I'm really excited to see what fresh hell comes when it tries to compete with ChatGPT for some godforsaken reason.

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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:34:18 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @thomaswilburn Very relevant repost @lanodan
     
     Google has basically completely fucked over their search engine since 2016. No, really, around 2014 Google was amazing. Now? It's absolutely terrible
     
     They truly earned it and the freakout will sure be interesting
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   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:36:26 JST Moon

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     @coolboymew @thomaswilburn @lanodan it's sad they could just roll back their search engine code or training data or whatever 7 years and it would be a lot better without having to even compete with chatgpt
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:37:22 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Moon @lanodan @thomaswilburn I wonder how much of it is electron brainrot and possibly FBI involvement and whatever societal fuck up that came after 2016
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:40:02 JST Moon

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     @coolboymew @lanodan @thomaswilburn I am baffled that they went from "the absolute best results no matter the cost" to just like, being totally okay with terrible, years-long decline. How does that even happen?
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:44:07 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Moon @lanodan @thomaswilburn This is happening industry-wide, this is kinda nuts and I still cannot find a real answer to it all
     
     Corps increasingly fucking people over > Getting into Politics > People are increasingly pissed at corporation > Politics leads to massive corpo decay > Things go down in quality and people don't like the politics > More money grubbing > People are even more pissed at corps > Dat sweet ESG investment money > Even more decay and unhappiness
     
     We've been on a crazy downward spiral that's just not stopping
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:44:56 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @MischievousTomato @lanodan @Moon @thomaswilburn Everything has basically been going critical since 2016. There were big signs of it before, but it's around then that shit started taking a freefall
   • Johnny Peligro :nafo: (mischievoustomato@beefyboys.win)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:44:58 JST Johnny Peligro :nafo:

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     @coolboymew @lanodan @Moon @thomaswilburn electron brainrot?
   • 💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified: (newt@stereophonic.space)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:45:24 JST 💀💀💀 :0080: c̷̨̢̛̲̼̞̞͓̹͚̗̼͓͚͖͒̔̓̃̈̋̂́̏̆̐̐̈́̉͘͜ȑ̴̫͔͂̌̔̆̓͛͗́͐̍̃́̆ÿ̷̤̺̳̖͖͚͈́̄́͌͒͂͊͗̄̔̚p̶̢̧͇̞̯͍͇̤̖͖̙̫̪͋̏̃̃͗̎͜͝t̶͖̉̽̐̇i̴̭̜̼͖̬̽̀͆̃̓̂̚͝ͅc̸̡͙̪͎̫͚̫̘̱͚͔̫̣̣̒̃̋͜͝ 💀💀💀 :verified:

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     @coolboymew @lanodan @thomaswilburn i only wish these companies just die. Enough is enough.
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   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:46:43 JST Moon

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     @vriska @lanodan @coolboymew @thomaswilburn how does being much worse make more money though?
     
     maybe they are just focusing on youtube at the cost of everything else or something? just more money to be made elsewhere?
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:46:43 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Moon @vriska @lanodan @thomaswilburn it technically does, but all of this is extremely short sighted
     
     Disney may get dat sweet ESG cash, but none of their recent big "Disney" releases had any leg, and won't have any long term sales either, and basically a huge part of the population thinks they're the devil now
     
     Was it really worth it?
   • 『VRISKA』 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:46:44 JST 『VRISKA』

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     @Moon @lanodan @coolboymew @thomaswilburn money

   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:47:03 JST Moon

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     @coolboymew @MischievousTomato @lanodan @thomaswilburn i'm not willing to take the leap yet that it's directly connected to "wokeism" but I'm also not saying it's not.
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   • 『VRISKA』 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:47:16 JST 『VRISKA』

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     @Moon @lanodan @coolboymew @thomaswilburn they started selling ranking results and that's when it started the decline

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   • Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon: (leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:53:02 JST Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon:

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     @coolboymew
     
     Google is an unusable search engine and has been since about when you describe. The only reason I have an account still is the amount of nonsense still tied into a gmail account. I don't think I can ever be fully rid of it unless they simply start yanking accounts, forcing everyone to have recovery options that don't involve the registered email - which would be an interesting scenario indeed.
     
     Side note, the notion that everyone will have their email address forever is a problem and nobody has done a thing about it.
     
     @lanodan @thomaswilburn
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   • 🐦ulon :blobshp: (birdulon@shpposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:53:32 JST 🐦ulon :blobshp:

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     @Moon @vriska @lanodan @coolboymew @thomaswilburn >focusing on youtube
     I wish they'd roll that back to when they allowed me to organise subs into groups. I truly dread every "update" with google services, feels like a constant stream of making defaults worse, then removing options for old features.
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   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:53:42 JST Moon

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     @coolboymew @lanodan @thomaswilburn @vriska i'm not saying that social justice bullshit is as bad as fascism but even under nazism a lot of businesses decided riding the wave of social change was more important than short term profits. this is some kind of refutation of a common criticism of capitalism but it's kind of worse lol
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:54:11 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Moon @lanodan @thomaswilburn @vriska yeah... that's more or less what's happening currently
   • Nel (nelenese@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:54:23 JST Nel

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     @coolboymew @thomaswilburn @lanodan seriously, google search iterally can't find anything without sorting through fucking endless filler garbage that gimped the algorithm
     "how do i solve my earwax clogging" gets me a 20 paragraph explanation on what earwax is, where it came from and why it's there and the ACTUAL solution to my problem in a tiny blurb 5/6 of the page down or not even there half the time.
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   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:54:33 JST Moon

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     @coolboymew @lanodan @thomaswilburn @vriska my point is, don't expect "this is losing us money" to correct anything lol
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   • 『VRISKA』 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:54:45 JST 『VRISKA』

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     @Moon @lanodan @coolboymew @thomaswilburn pretend wokism is still the meta because the demographics with the highest amounts of disposable income are coupled gay men and liberal white women

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   • Nel (nelenese@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:55:39 JST Nel

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     @coolboymew @lanodan @thomaswilburn >google how do i find x shrine in BOTW after playing for 50 hours
     >"UHH DID YOU KNOW THAT BREATH OF THE WILD IS A ACTION ADVENTURE OPEN WORLD GAME CREATED BY NINTNEDO FOR THE NINTENDO SWITCH???????"
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   • just an actual husbear :verified: (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:57:58 JST just an actual husbear :verified:

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     @Moon @vriska @lanodan @coolboymew @thomaswilburn It will at some point, in the long run, but the amount of pooled money in ESG-managed funds will keep these companies afloat for a long time, and those pushing those changes are hoping that it can keep them afloat long enough for the social causes they want to champion to become so normalized they won't have to be propped artificially anymore after.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:59:41 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @guizzy @vriska @lanodan @Moon @thomaswilburn
     
     >normalized
     
     This is exactly the problem with the modern push. With how it's pushed, nothing is getting "normalized", it's getting a special treatment, people notice the hell out, people hate it
   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 23:59:49 JST Jeff Cliff

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     Because what Google does isn't search anymore.
     
     It's social control
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   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Feb-2023 00:01:23 JST Moon

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     @guizzy @vriska @lanodan @coolboymew @thomaswilburn I think you can lie about your progress on that to yourself (and apparently, to investors) basically forever now
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Feb-2023 00:08:14 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @mrsaturday @Moon @guizzy @lanodan @thomaswilburn @vriska I don't know about that, there's also a lot of rebels in that gen
   • ☻ (mrsaturday@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Feb-2023 00:08:15 JST ☻

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     @coolboymew @guizzy @Moon @lanodan @thomaswilburn @vriska Look at the population under 21 and tell me it isn't. It's a long game. Effective politics is when you can change the water and convince all of the dumb fish swimming around in it that it's normal.
   • Nel (nelenese@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Feb-2023 00:16:54 JST Nel

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     @Moon @coolboymew @lanodan @thomaswilburn from what i've heard, google's corporate cultures is based around employees spitballing and coining new concepts and ideas to appeal to higher ups rather than maintaining and improving or innovating existing things, leading to negligence of pre-existing entities like the search engine. people get promoted and climb the corporate ladder by being "revolutionary" and "innovative" even if the products they propose are deeply flawed (https://killedbygoogle.com/), on the other hand people whom do work and maintain usually get blindsided by the higherups and ignored since they aren't the exciting new thins.
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   • Kerosene :ancapshades: (kerosene@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Feb-2023 00:20:03 JST Kerosene :ancapshades:

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     @coolboymew @thomaswilburn @lanodan I can still vividly remember that over the span of about a month the reverse image search went from absolutely amazing to completely useless. I used to use it for finding manga panels (and source of images used in memes), but during that time I started just getting "manga" as a result. No title, no genre, just "manga". Same with other things.
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   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Feb-2023 00:21:22 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @kerosene @coolboymew @thomaswilburn Yeah, reverse image search was about the only thing I used Google Images for, but now it's crap.
     
     At least for manga/anime/… there is https://saucenao.com/
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   • Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon: (leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Feb-2023 00:35:30 JST Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon:

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     @Moon
     
     I am cynical enough at this point to believe the money is mostly from governments, the glowing parts in particular.
     
     @vriska @lanodan @coolboymew @thomaswilburn
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   • Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon: (leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Feb-2023 00:42:00 JST Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon:

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     @vriska
     
     Both directly and indirectly. Advertising is one thing, selling out their principles was quite another.
     
     @Moon @lanodan @coolboymew @thomaswilburn
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     @Moon
     
     I don't see that there is any other possible reason. The only reason to go from being that good at what they're doing to being that bad at it is to control narrative by stripping the flow of information of whatever goes against their will. The only reason to do that in context is to prop up ideas that cannot withstand an unbiased look at the information. If their ideas were good this wouldn't be a problem for them.
     
     @MischievousTomato @lanodan @coolboymew @thomaswilburn
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     @coolboymew
     
     I actually like Walt, he wanted to inspire people to use their imagination instead of just banking on IP itself. I hate what they've done to his legacy and I look forward to urbex photos of post-collapse Disneyland. They've stripped Walt's soul out of it anyway, from what I hear. I was last there in 1990 when my sisters were little and at this point that's nearly half the park's life ago. Even as a kid on trips before that one when I was young enough to enjoy it for what it was, almost all the magic was in the older stuff and that kind of thing is no longer there for the most part.
     
     @vriska @lanodan @Moon @thomaswilburn
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   • cel (cel@skinnyver.se)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Feb-2023 00:47:31 JST cel

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     @Moon @lanodan @coolboymew @thomaswilburn honestly imo its more an issue with the internet itself, there's just so much more garbage content to sift through and everything is 'search engine optimised'. i think the only way out of this will be to start making search engines more similar to private torrent trackers or something
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   • "Hay harina sólo para tres o cuatro días" (racuna@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Feb-2023 00:59:15 JST "Hay harina sólo para tres o cuatro días"

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     @coolboymew @thomaswilburn @lanodan they were fucking around because they were the leaders of the search industry engines for so much time.
     
     They had the AI technology before the competitors, but page results are they income. Also, they killed products with AI embedded (like Allo, or smart replies in Messages) or never improved other AI based platforms: The speak recognition of Hub/Home assistant is retard, the Gboard prediction is crap, Youtube/YT Music recommendations are garbage.
     
     Perhaps they hired people according to their woke policies instead of hiring people with competence, and now they feel rushed because in the competition to control the Truth, they are being overtaken by other companies.
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   • Johnny Peligro :nafo: (mischievoustomato@beefyboys.win)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Feb-2023 04:47:04 JST Johnny Peligro :nafo:

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     @Nelenese @lanodan @Moon @coolboymew @thomaswilburn this is why we've seen google destroy stuff that was good like hangouts to try to replace it with allo and now just plain messages.
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   • Nel (nelenese@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Feb-2023 04:48:19 JST Nel

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     @MischievousTomato @lanodan @Moon @coolboymew @thomaswilburn Most of the changes they do is simply change for the sake of change and for a office party, even if the change barely improves anything or often just makes everything worse. The people who usually make these changes usually don't even stick around to improve the damn thing, just fucks off to make the cool new thing.
     That's why stadia was a turd at launch and stayed that way until it died; its purpose internally was fulfilled and the people who make the decisions see no reason to go with it. A disposable thing for both the consumer and producer. So strange.
     If you wonder why Youtube keep fucking changing the site's ui several times the last decade with it being more worse every iteration, that probably explains why.
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