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1. Rasterman (rasterman@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 11:44:10 JST Rasterman

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   @beardalaxy @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum This video did a good job explaining how newer Minecraft could be seen as less fun than before, legitimately.
   
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   Easy means to circumvent difficulty means the game is only challenging if you make it so
   
   As recently as the new Hermitcraft season, player Bdubs was saying how he's gonna avoid Mending enchantments because otherwise you never have a reason to mine any more; and Elytra because he wants to actually make roads and travel on horse.
   
   I see it.
   
   This is all Notch's fault for adding beds to the game. :pepe_fact:
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 11:45:40 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Rasterman @beardalaxy @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum decent video
     
     But the real issue is infinite creeping updates. You can't do this forever and not expect to fuck things up. Honestly, Minecraft is freaking 13 years old. It's time to stop lmao. Of course the game is stale if you've been playing it for that long
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     @coolboymew @rasterman @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum yeah minecraft is more or less a live service game now, with bugs that have been there for like 5+ years sticking around. it doesn't help that they have to maintain two versions of the game. they really should just axe java development and let people mod bedrock easier. pure manpower and money won't make something better.

     personally though i just think minecraft is pretty bloated. you can even see that change in the soundtrack. the game used to be a lot more simple than it is now, a decade after i first played it. i actually kind of feel this way about no man's sky too, i liked that initial version the most xD it's clear that the overwhelmingly popular opinion though is that more stuff is needed, because people go absolutely nuts with mods that add all sorts of crazy shit and they can't play the game without it... to the point that it has kept an older, less optimized version of the game alive lol.

     people actually had the same issue with the elytra in tears of the kingdom, where it was like... why ride my horse anywhere at all if i can just build this little fan doo-dad and fly anywhere instead? and of course you're going to do that because it's faster and easier, but all the mood is completely sapped away from it.

     i think something that would actually push me to do more in minecraft than the basic shit would be if there were more dedicated dungeons that required some of the new stuff to complete, with unique bosses at the end of them that would drop unique items. stuff you couldn't just spawn in with creative mode. have some crazier world generation. and then maybe some little quests/scripted events that happen if conditions line up, some rarer than others. something like a fusion of minecraft dungeons and infdev/beta i guess lol.

     otherwise, all the crap they're adding is just bloat tbh. it's not really a game as much as it is a platform at a certain point, but games like fortnite and roblox have that market down much more and it leaves current minecraft in a weird spot.

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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 22:37:12 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Rasterman @beardalaxy @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum because when you update it for 13 freaking years you're basically going to start bloating it heavily and destroying the previous balance in a bad way
   • Rasterman (rasterman@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 22:37:13 JST Rasterman

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     @coolboymew @beardalaxy @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum Why would updating a game be a bad thing in itself? :blobthinking:
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     @beardalaxy @coolboymew @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum Wouldn't be able to play on Linux if they remove Java, so I hope they don't.
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   • mischievoustomato (mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:36:12 JST mischievoustomato

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     yeah. minecraft feels boring at this stage, and I've tried to earnestly get into it. it feels too raw, too manual, rather lonely.
     palworld is like minecraft but with more soul and no terraforming
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     @mischievoustomato @Rasterman @beardalaxy @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum it's just time to move on from Minecraft, really
   • mischievoustomato (mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:38:51 JST mischievoustomato

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     I've dropped it, i own it thx to a friend, but got no real reason to play it
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   • mischievoustomato (mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:38:59 JST mischievoustomato

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     protoooon
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   • :meru_B: b e a r d (beardalaxy@gameliberty.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:39:06 JST :meru_B: b e a r d

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     @mischievoustomato @rasterman @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum @coolboymew "soul" is the last thing i expected anyone to say in reference to palworld lmao the devs even said they were pretty much just trend chasing and nobody had any idea what they were doing mechanically. a game that blatantly rips off pokemon designs is not a game i would classify as having "soul" regardless of how fun it is.

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   • Rasterman (rasterman@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:39:23 JST Rasterman

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     @coolboymew @beardalaxy @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum It seems the balance was destroyed a long time ago. Like that one video said, everything added after a certain point has been a detour. Nothing is mandatory.
     
     I'm glad they keep adding new types of blocks for the æsthetics. I wish they reworked the progression, however.
     
     And on the topic of beds ruining the most exciting part of the game (surviving the night), I really dislike the phantoms. Now not only do they offer the chance to skip the night; but they encourage it! :whitecat_wtf: Found out the hard way coming back after years and playing on an anarchy server.
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     @coolboymew @rasterman @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum @mischievoustomato i play it with my siblings every now and then, it's mainly a vehicle for all of us chatting and hanging out rather than us actually playing the game and working towards goals or anything like that.

     which is fine, honestly. i like minecraft because i can just turn my brain off for a bit and chill, hollow out a fuckin mountain or something.

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     @rasterman @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum @coolboymew i fucking HATE phantoms dude holy shit. they really get in the way.

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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:40:09 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @beardalaxy @Rasterman @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum @mischievoustomato I would have loved it as a young kid, but I can't play these "infinite no real goal" games. I need to have some actual freaking quest
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     i can if in the proper mindset, but gets tiring once it's too advanced
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   • Rasterman (rasterman@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:50:26 JST Rasterman

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     @beardalaxy @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum @coolboymew I'm all for adding new monsters; but phantoms go against the original idea of Minecraft, possibly, more than any other feature in the game.
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   • Rasterman (rasterman@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 00:06:27 JST Rasterman

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     @beardalaxy @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum @coolboymew The first moment I was attacked by them I thought they were annoying. Then that they were cool. Like, after so many nights with no sleep you go insane and attract monster...
     
     ...but some of the most memorable moments with the game I have come from long nights and lurking mobs. Like the time I tried to travel from base A to base B on a railroad on the ground (from the time when you couldn't make a minecart move by simply pressing forward) and a skeleton arrow disabled the cart. :pepe_giga: Nowadays it'd be unlikely I'd do that in the night, having so many incentives to sleep. :pepe_feelsweird:
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   • :meru_B: b e a r d (beardalaxy@gameliberty.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 00:06:28 JST :meru_B: b e a r d

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     @rasterman @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum @coolboymew oops sorry, you can no longer explore, mine, or craft, you must sleep or be forever tormented.