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1. Granwalder (granwalder@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 01:40:47 JST Granwalder
   >If only I could somehow go back in time to 2018 and show myself these photos. Those are are not happy tears. This was her very first feeding. 40 minutes old.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 01:44:20 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @Granwalder All the troonery really fails to mention how totally off-book we are letting these people have kids with such insanely busted endocrine systems. In the old days they were careful about getting pregnant, adivising you wait if you have things out of whack - now they just tell them to have at it, and I fear what will become of these kids.

     Sure, they'll be mostly normal, but when you look around you today, a whole lot of people are....and that's what's awful about things. Lots of people are just developmentally off, if you pay attention. Ataxic, ugly, premature, they just seem like they were taken out of the oven a little too early.

     A bunch of babies being born in the roller coaster hormone cycles of a "detrans" woman will probably have a bunch of secret niggles nobody will codify for decades. In 2060 they'll start asking "hey why do detrans people's kids all have early onset osteoporosis and rheumatoid arthritis?!?!"

   • Granwalder (granwalder@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 01:50:36 JST Granwalder

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot I'm kinda split. we have to do something with the people that "recover" and getting women, in this case, into normal family structures is probably the best they could hope for.
     
     On the other hand there are long term issues and impacts that we can't yet forsee.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 01:50:36 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @Granwalder I feel for them but parenthood isn't about you. This is the same kind of argument I have w/ people when they want to keep rolling the dice for a healthy child even when they have nasty genetic illnesses. Have seen people with 3 wheelchair bound children excitedly announce a 4th pregnancy, that's bleak

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 01:58:28 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @Granwalder Not the lack of the breasts that I'm talking about, it's the fact she carpet bombed her endocrine system with lupron and re-seeded it with testosterone, then went back to synthesized estrogen when she changed her mind. We don't have the most thorough understanding of the biochemical flows and chain reactions involved with hormones, you can't just cut n' paste things in blood chem like that.

     It's like....instead of letting a carburetor run on its own, you shut off the fuel flow and decide you're going to manually run them by hand, adjusting the fuel flow with syringes second by second. Sure, the engine will keep running, but it's not going to be optimal....and building a baby is one place you should aim for optimal in every aspect.

     I foresee lots of weird issues, only the pattern seekers in 15 years will say 'yeah all my friends with former trans moms are like, fuckin' weird, ever noticed that?" "holy shit yeah, it's hard to explain but they're all just a little off, or busted"

   • Granwalder (granwalder@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 01:58:29 JST Granwalder

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot don't know how far mammaries, or the lack of em, effect the female hormones.
     Still what do we do with millions, at this point, of eunuchs