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1. PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:02:06 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer
   Page 1 of the bluesky paper is a riot already. Aside from mentioning the "instance question", the big goal with Bluesky is you guessed it, censorship. This is why it's on the first fucking page. This is what sets it apart from the fedi, your ability to say words and post art will be determined by that of a 400lb moderator who half the time doesn't do his job.
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   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:08:25 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     So why is ActivityPub bad? Why does it have to go? Well put it this way, it all comes down to one thing: posting careers.
     
     Just like how a moderator bought SomethingAwful to keep the posting careers of the users there alive (literally somethingawful.com now takes you right to the forums and not the old comedy site LowT built that drew people to the forums unless you click it), Mastodon/Twitter users love their posting careers. It's why having your entire posting career being nuked upon a ban is such an effective punishment, as opposed to forums which would just cross your name out. And right now, if a Mastodon server goes down you can transfer many of your followers, but your posting career of tweets that won't age poorly at all is gone.
     
     But hey. At least there's bsky with extra censorship to fight "misinfo". This is why the network protocol of bsky is so complicated, censorship has to be baked into the protocol.
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   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:08:26 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     You can totally run a PDS on anything, but more importantly you don't need to worry about being a janny. Someone else will.
     
     You could say this takes control away, but this is intended for mastodongers not us. It's every single bad fedi moderation idea in a nutshell.
     
     This is confirmed with the page on algorithms, and how users of it so desperately want their algorithm and their posting career. They want Twitter but without Tesla man.
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   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:08:27 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     As of today, atproto does not currently federate. It also lacks DMs, not even the fakeass idea of DMs known as "post scopes". But the funnier part is how the protocol is such a goddamn clusterfuck compared to activitypub.
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   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:08:28 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     Oh yes interaction gating, the thing that led exactly to quote tweet dunking on Twitter because some open sex pest/evil corporation would be saying something fucktarded only to get mocked in the replies.
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   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:08:28 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     Two things that make BSky different from fedi are the idea of a "universal username" as opposed to username/domain, and more importantly they love the idea of an algorithm (but not the evil meanie one).
     
     Essentially bsky is for the NPC who cares about his posting career, but wants to be fed slop. He does not remember how pissed Twitter was when the regular timeline got replaced with the algorithmic timeline.
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   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:10:15 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @Pawlicker Bluesky is for retards who fell for Gargron's schtick without realizing Fedi works far better for our side than theirs and need something else with all their gay buzzwords but still has a janny to run to.
   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:12:26 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @Pawlicker The whole point of the internet is for retards to laugh at other retards. If you can't reply, you quote. If you can't quote, you screencap. As long as the lolcows are there, the milk will find a way to flow.
   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:25:58 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     • iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:
     @icedquinn this is all in theory because right now bsky is a monolithic site and all the artists getting jannied is gonna move them to misskey.io or back to Twitter. :D
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   • iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:25:59 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:

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     @Pawlicker the subscription is supposed to be personal, afaik.
   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:26:00 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     • iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:
     @icedquinn >you're supposed to be able to subscribe to moderators
     
     Do you know how well that's worked in the fediverse? Actually I can tell you.
     https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/censured
   • iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:26:02 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:

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     @Pawlicker somewhat alarmist interpretation.
     you're supposed to be able to subscribe to moderators. there's some prior work on that
     
     https://reaction.la/security/social_networking.html
     https://getaether.net/
   • phoenix :keeki: (phoenix@amala.schwartzwelt.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:29:27 JST phoenix :keeki:

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     • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
     @ArdainianRight @Pawlicker it’s a walled garden where they can have accounts terminated for the grievous crime of not sucking the lady penis.
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   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 11:01:43 JST xianc78

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     • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

     @ArdainianRight @Pawlicker Screenshots aren't a reliable way to archive content. They can be faked with a photo editing tool or the inspect element feature in most web browsers.