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1. Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 05:15:06 JST Aral Balkan

   Huge respect for the mental gymnastics skills of folks attempting to justify Mozilla paying their CEO $7 million while asking for donations.

   #mozilla

   • Z_Zed_Zed (z_zed_zed@universeodon.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 06:51:04 JST Z_Zed_Zed

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     @aral She makes 3.5% of the Google CEO. Opera’s CEO is worth a couple of billion dollars. I could go on (and on and on and on…). It doesn’t take much more than five minutes on the search engine of your choice to realize that she is significantly underpaid compared to people in similar positions.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 06:51:04 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Z_Zed_Zed

     @Z_Zed_Zed Such stamina and control. It’s basically an art form. 👏 👏 👏

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:50:21 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Kancept

     @kancept Such litheness and poise.

   • Kancept (kancept@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:50:22 JST Kancept

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     @aral Mozilla Corporation (the sorta advertising company) != Mozilla Foundation (the ones asking/needing the donations)

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 18:28:26 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Erik Uden 🍑
     • Rapha3l

     @rapha3l @ErikUden @mozilla Naw mate, just pulled it out my ass for shits and giggles.

     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker

   • Rapha3l (rapha3l@mastodon.g2od.ch)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 18:28:27 JST Rapha3l

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     • Erik Uden 🍑

     @aral @ErikUden

     @mozilla is that number true?

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 18:31:09 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Boris

     @borisschapira

   • Boris (borisschapira@framapiaf.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 18:31:10 JST Boris

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     @aral not the same Mozilla, is it (corp. vs foundation)?

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 18:33:07 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Daniel Schildt
     • Simounet

     @autiomaa @simounet https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107070299249803289

   • Daniel Schildt (autiomaa@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 18:33:08 JST Daniel Schildt

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     • Simounet

     @simounet @aral As people from Mozilla have said (at events), it's just a company with a bit more complex ownership structure. Business focused on producing profits.

   • Simounet (simounet@mastodon.simounet.net)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 18:33:10 JST Simounet

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     @aral This is ridiculous and really wrong. All "marketing" messages from Mozilla are wrong for years. What a shame… I love the browser (and Thunderbird 🥰) but everything else is just bs.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 18:36:51 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Boris

     @borisschapira General Motors or General Motors Foundation?

   • Boris (borisschapira@framapiaf.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 18:36:52 JST Boris

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     @aral well it makes a difference, it's like being shocked that General Motors does not have the maintenance of roads on its roadmap.

   • Luka Rubinjoni (rubinjoni@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 18:41:39 JST Luka Rubinjoni

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     @aral The one doing the spit is explaining the "mozilla foundation / mozilla corporation" duality

     Aral Balkan repeated this.
   • Luka Rubinjoni (rubinjoni@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 18:42:14 JST Luka Rubinjoni

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     @aral Called it...

   • Christo 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧 (christo@mastodonapp.uk)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 19:09:23 JST Christo 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

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     @aral
     Isn't there a US company where every employee including the boss gets paid the same?

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 19:09:23 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Christo 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

     @Christo There are some, yes.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 19:36:27 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Ostfriesin

     @Ostfriesin “It’s not a girl’s responsibility how a man looks at her or how he acts, especially when you’re doing your sport and that’s your uniform” – Olivia Dunne, gymnast

     Perhaps the problem isn’t a video of women performing a complicated athletic routine but a man objectifying those women, taking the focus away from their skills and abilities and placing it on their appearance instead while perpetuating sexist puritanical stereotypes. So maybe we should stop doing that.

   • Ostfriesin (ostfriesin@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 19:36:28 JST Ostfriesin

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     @aral

     Unfortunately no one seems to have mentioned it before - I do not think it is appropriate nowadays to display the crotch of a young woman (in the front of the pic) in that way. Pictures like this should not be taken anymore - explicit wish of the sportspersons. Probably you did not take this pic, but (just) distributing is not much better. No offense 🙋

   • Daniel Schildt (autiomaa@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 23:49:18 JST Daniel Schildt

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     • Simounet

     @simounet Firefox gets funded increasingly from the commercial SaaS integrations, and product placements on the search tools. Previously it was Google paying for the search visibility via browser UI, but those days are mostly gone.

     @aral

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 23:49:18 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Daniel Schildt
     • Simounet

     @autiomaa @simounet Last I checked, Mozilla only existed thanks to half a billion dollars from Google every year. Are you saying that has changed? Would appreciate a source if so.

   • Simounet (simounet@mastodon.simounet.net)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 23:49:20 JST Simounet

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     • Daniel Schildt

     @aral Still relevant today but I can't let down on Firefox. 😔@autiomaa

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 23:52:46 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Jeramee

     @Jeramee Mozilla is the public sector? Odd, their head of public policy had told me they were “just another Silicon Valley tech company” when asking me why I held them to such a higher standard. Guess she must’ve been confused at the time.

     (Good thing then that we have Google to fund the public sector with half a billion dollars a year.)

   • Jeramee (jeramee@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 23:52:47 JST Jeramee

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     @aral
     "If we don't pay the CEO this much, they'll just go work in the private sector."

     This is true yet we can still be irritated by this. But, railing against Mozilla doesn't fix the problem. The problem is capitulating to authoritarian thinking, which capitalism propagandizes is into doing.

     The necessity of ungodly CEO pay is a scam. Condemning the public sector only further divides us. Save your wrath for the true enemies. Fight capitalism.

   • Jeramee (jeramee@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 17:42:54 JST Jeramee

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     @aral
     Nonprofits are part of the public sector. Mozilla foundation is a nonprofit. Mozilla corporation, which is for-profit, controls Firefox.

     That may sound strange, but it's to work around tax laws. If Firefox had a really good year, they must use or give away nearly all the money they've accrued if it's a nonprofit. As a for-profit, they can establish cash reserves.

     I don't agree with staggering CEO pay. I merely say that we should fight the corruption's source and not a mere effect

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 17:42:54 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Jeramee

     @Jeramee Well I’m no fan of capitalism either. But I have a special dislike for hypocrisy.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 23:16:27 JST Aral Balkan

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     • grbit

     @grbit Sounds like you have an issue with reading comprehension and basic logic. Happy New Year. Now go away.

   • grbit (grbit@lor.sh)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 23:16:29 JST grbit

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     @aral
     Sounds like you'd prefer Mozilla paying everyone minimum living wage.

     I think that making an alternative browser engine nowadays is great. Nobody does that. Vivaldi that you've mentioned use chromium, btw.
     IMHO, there is nothing wrong with asking for donation, even it's $70 millions. If you don't like them, don't pay. If you can make it better, do it, I'll be the first one to support you. But what you are doing now looks populist and shallow.