@Xeraser 4chan fell years ago, their lewd boards ban Loli and people will often bitch at you for posting paywalled content instead of thanking you for it. It's just a couple of steps away from being Anon Reddit.
The 8chan exodus happened for a reason; and there's a good reason why after cuckflare fucked over 8chan, Joshes imageboard flopped, and Mark's struggled due to drama that people speculated why 4chan is much easier to host than 8chan: aside from the obvious feds part it's rumored that the internet hall monitors want 4chan to be the only imageboard, and also the most easily controlled. You've heard the stories about compromised mods and especially on /pol/, how /v/ mods flip shit about certain game discussion, and of course the fact /qa/ has been shutdown for nearly a year because members raided /lgbt/ with soyjaks (leading to the soyjak.party offshoot site).
There's also a reason for this and that is 8chan /pol/ and especially their offshoots getting shit done at the same time 4chan jannies were shutting down threads like the HWNDU saga and Right Wing Safety Squads (when /pol/ reported shitty warehouse flophouses/"diy spaces" to landlords and the fire department after the Ghost Ship fire). This part of the internet cannot rise up, it has to stay rageposting on /pol/ daily.
Also Hiro had scandals as owner of 2chan as well and there was a theory that Hiro was going to be datamining 4channers as well in some circles. Jim talked about it when it happened. https://youtu.be/8qVTR8vU71Y
Accelerating this is the fall of Kiwi Farms too, which was also acting as a containment site. KF in particular has had the user/post quality rapidly deteriorate over the past few years, especially as more /pol/ rejects joined and the troon squad scared off longtime posters.
I'm not sure it's a fed honeypot, but I've heard better theories with more weight as to what the site is used for. Namely; the sites used to launder dox on people groups hate.
I'm sure if anything the feds use it as a free/cheap way to do research.
It started like nearly 10 years ago when GG happened or right before it did. That's when before Moot left, he infamously installed left wing/troon mods and then ditched to work at Google. There were IRC leaks around this time as well that were everywhere and everyone at the time made janny jokes.
They dox plenty of right wingers on there too and a SPLC journalist was using them for info on the dumb shit people like Nick Fuentes did. The political views of many users are the nihilistic "hating everything" type.
If anything I think the only reason KF is running into pressure from webhosts and mad Big Tech employees instead of the feds is they hate it far more than the government does.
The one person KF usually doesn't go after are government officials and people in that area, unless they're laughing at politicians or raging about them, and the last time a user made an ironic edgy threat towards the government (before the false flag posts) he wound up with an FBI visit after the feds asked Josh for info on him. If they were threatening big dogs in the government, you'd see shit like the Vertias DoJ raid or the Alex Jones lawsuits.
Big tech on the other hand absolutely hates the site making fun of ex-Google employees and their fucktoys online.
On the other hand, the biggest problem with KF and Chudbuds is the very "in your face fight everyone" community, since at least Poasties and weeb instances have an unwritten code of rules to follow and you'll be safe. Those two websites don't even have that, one day you're fine and the next you're getting chewed out by other users over some minor thing.
This has hampered user growth and creativity and left many users on KF in particular as lurkers, because contributing runs a real risk you'll get fucked over if you get deep enough into the community.
@PhenomX6@Terry@Xeraser >Those two websites don't even have that, one day you're fine and the next you're getting chewed out by other users over some minor thing. They literally function like a discord server.
@PhenomX6@Awoo@Xeraser awoo is a good dude, he may work in a psyche ward but lifes tough in Australia and you gotta pay the bills. I just hope if I'm ever sent to the nuthouse down under I have awoo as my thug guardian overlooker (he doesn't care if you take your pills).
@PhenomX6@Terry@Xeraser > Those two websites don't even have that, one day you're fine and the next you're getting chewed out by other users over some minor thing.
oh yeah no joke. I hooked it up at a friends house and played this sound through an XXL studio speaker (yes the sound chip sounds like this). Sounded lit.
Yes it's literally a laptop with an OPN sound chip it sounds amazing in games. I need to repair the NiMH battery one of these days though and take it in public.
@Xeraser@Terry@basadeskaiser@PhenomX6@colonelj i read "OPN" as oneohtrix point never. are these 2203 sound chips the ones that are really hard to get genuine articles of these days, have a lot of mediocre counterfeits and so forth? i remember someone talking about that a while back.
@bronze@PhenomX6@ChristiJunior@Xeraser That's the "beauty" of the feds failure to effectively police csam, they can "legally" take down or blackmail sites that allow people to speak their mind, and then sites like Twitter where it is rampant will mysteriously never have trouble from the feds.
@PhenomX6@ChristiJunior@Xeraser jim mentioned that "4chan sold to feds" screencap that was floating around and I swear I had saved it years ago I didn't, but it wasn't hard to find. For anyone curious here it is:
IMO part of why the fedi is doing so well is the same reason some of the KF boards did well for years: the admins don't have any involvement in chan gayops or the like.
@Xeraser@PhenomX6 pretty much pointed out the main reasons. It was in decline for over a decade and the death knell was the gamergate exodus. Don't deny them their vidya or fag it up, otherwise you will awaken a sleeping giant and fill it with terrible resolve.
I'm still not keen with this twitter format, I do prefer the other image boards, but I admit the federated imageboard webring's activity has been slowed down to a crawl with the fucking gayops running it to the ground.
@CumskinFoidPuncher69420@ryo@Xeraser After what he and certain figures did to backdoor and sell out 2ch, and the Reddit connection involving some of the same companies, I'm not convinced he isn't just a front man for other people.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was as simple as Hiro not even running the honeypot boards and solely focusing on 2chan, with feds having full ownership of the Americunt version.