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1. Shadowman311 (shadowman311@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 01:28:31 JST Shadowman311
   I don't know if this is true, but if it is this is very big, this means that the US just blinked hard against an adversary directly threatening it's naval power.
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   • Chineseman 🟥 #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 01:28:30 JST Chineseman 🟥 #nobot

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     @Shadowman311 nearly all suez cargo is already re-routed.
     parking half their marine power in a pass 30km across.
     sand people used a BALLISTIC missile on a moving cargo ship in demostration
     
     niggas face-checked and lost.
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   • Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 01:28:43 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     I made a small thread on this. The fuck around era is over for the US paper tiger, and we know who is to blame.

   • Cool_Zone :njp: (tarnishedyarmulke@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 01:28:45 JST Cool_Zone :njp:

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     Lol so much for expressing globo-homo power around the world. Cut the blood flow to the cancer (Israel) and the tumor will die.
   • Some German Guy (some_german_guy@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 01:35:06 JST Some German Guy

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     @Shadowman311 remember that yemen used to be at war with saudi arabia for many years, until china of all people brokered a peace deal with them, ending the war literally overnight.
     then yemen forced not just the americans, but a nato coalition navy into the region.
     then yesterday chine gives the statement that they will take over taiwan, no matter what the west says.
     there are not enough nato ships to secure both the red sea, and the south china sea.
     this was a fucking master stroke.
     the chinese forced zog to choose between loosing the suez, or loosing taiwan.
     and this plan has been going for at least 2 years since they brokered the yemeni peace deal.
     nbcnews.com/news/china/xi-warned-biden-summit-beijing-will-reunify-taiwan-china-rcna130087
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   • Nate Higgers, Head of Trust and Safety :rh_1::rh_4::rh_8::rh_8: :sonnenrad: :antiverified: (nathanielhigger1488@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 10:22:48 JST Nate Higgers, Head of Trust and Safety :rh_1::rh_4::rh_8::rh_8: :sonnenrad: :antiverified:

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     @Some_German_Guy @Shadowman311 Tactically, Taiwan is more important. The only reason they would care about the Suez is cuz of kikes. Taiwan produces most of the computer chips in the world and kikes need to be genocided anyway
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 10:24:56 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @Some_German_Guy @Shadowman311 Gotta admit I like the idea of having CPU tech frozen for a spell

     • China takes TSMC fabs in south china island
     • US sanctions them, no more cores for you, CHUDs!
     • Chinese chips only ones around, values spike but most people's computers work well enough to keep going for a few years more
     • American chips finally fabricated, grossly inferior, high error rate so they tackle less troublesome but larger nm dies
     • next 10 years given reprieve of constant CPU grind
   • Some German Guy (some_german_guy@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 10:37:23 JST Some German Guy

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Shadowman311 i honestly dont understand the computing hardware market enough to give any sort of worthwhile prediction, but it should shake things up if nothing else.
     problems have a tendency to breed innovation.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 10:37:23 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @Some_German_Guy @Shadowman311 The US is trying to bring chip production to the southwest desert shitholes.....but they gotta pack it full of chix n' nigs, so it's probably going to suffer many issues before they ever get viable production going.

     The whole thing is incredibly complex for the employee, the man on the ground having to keep it all going. And they wanna start from scratch, without any longstanding guidance or expertise. Sure, they'll bring over as many poached TSMC guys as they can, but I doubt they wanna go live in the desert when they get perfectly great lives in the east.

     So they'll have non-competitive products, where they try to play up the "eco friendly" nature of offering lower wattage, poor performing CPUs. 10 years from now they'll be putting out 4 and 8 cores that are scarcely better than what we have now, but they'll be "american made!!!!" and "GREEEEEN" to the average buyer

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 10:37:30 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @Some_German_Guy @Shadowman311 I don't really know what I'm talking about though, I'm not into the tech scene - I'm projecting all this estimation using my experience in other, less complex industries when guys tried to bring foreign production here....

     turns out even the "simple" things have a LOT of unwritten knowledge and experience tied up in their homeland, and unless you snagg those exact guys you won't have a finished, competitive product until you can teach/learn all those same lessons in-house.

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 10:43:06 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @TalmudTranslator @Some_German_Guy @Shadowman311 I thought the toughest part was only doable by those belgian machines, in a suitably tremor-free, sterile factory.

     I know the chinks have long been poaching the taiwanese foreman and engineers to help figure it out, that technique seemed to work somewhat - but they've been at it for a decade already and they're only just coming out with chips that are even somewhat competitive

   • TalmudTranslator (talmudtranslator@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 10:43:07 JST TalmudTranslator

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Some_German_Guy @Shadowman311 We sort of make all the shit to make the chips and ship it over to taiwan anyways for them to make them, so I think a transition would be smoother than people think. I cut and welded many giant industrial ovens for taiwan and chinese semi conductor and chip plants at a previous job.
   • Radians (demonsixone@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 10:52:55 JST Radians

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Some_German_Guy @Shadowman311 10-15 years ago when places like AZ and TX had cheap land, a center-right pro-business government and racially homogenous suburbs it was possible.
     
     Today with CA land and energy pricing, a progressivly bluer and green shit government and unlivable suburbs makes starting up any sort of industrial works basically impossible.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 10:53:29 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @DemonSixOne @Some_German_Guy @Shadowman311 I keep seeing headlines that they've dried up ground water all over there, to the point they won't let new homes be built without their own rights now.

     I'm sure a giant chip fab doesn't need much water, though

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 11:05:26 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @TalmudTranslator @Some_German_Guy @Shadowman311 I know that, you can get the equipment there with money, but you can't download the essential, VITAL, and always-ignored information from the guys' brains. There's a mountain of know-how that's cached in a bunch of workers, and it's hard to quantify, categorize, and transmit it without having them right there in the room to tell you "aw, yeah I saw this once, we fixed it by...."

     And those guys will be halfway across the world. What good are all the best machines on earth if you have a 297-lb black woman as production manager (who worked her way up to assistant manager of the local Hertz Rent-A-Car) instead of these people?

   • TalmudTranslator (talmudtranslator@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 11:05:27 JST TalmudTranslator

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Some_German_Guy @Shadowman311 Yeah that is true but what I mean is that american and german/northern euro machines are doing the heavy lifting so a transition from taiwan to mexico or even like a poland to keep labor cost down, especially with removing some Taiwanese engineers if they looked to invade, could be done if need be probably pretty fast.
   • Some German Guy (some_german_guy@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 11:05:49 JST Some German Guy

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     @TalmudTranslator @WashedOutGundamPilot @Shadowman311 german industry has been dead since 2020.
     what little remained was killed when they blow up the northstream pipeline.
     every company that could leave germany has done so.
     the remaining heavy industry like steel production is running either on a skeleton crew and at a loss, hoping to survive long enough until this insanity ends.
     or have outright declared bankruptcy.
     it makes little difference how much the chinese or americans are willing to pay for our machines, the prices of electricity, fuel and gas are so high that the economy is fundamentally fucked.
     production is just not viable anymore.
     and as a nice little fuck you at the end, after destroying our industry, now they are doing everything they can to destroy our agriculture as well.
     youtube.com/watch?v=yWC86fDGy5s&ab_channel=RedPillGermany
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 11:06:15 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @Some_German_Guy @TalmudTranslator @Shadowman311 I'm sorry man, FWIW I do hear a lot of the younger guys refer to you as an occupied country. At least they aren't lying about it anymore

   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 11:12:25 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @Shadowman311 The folks in DC are worried at the threat of a military conflict cutting into their precious Capitol buttsex time.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 11:21:06 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @TalmudTranslator @Some_German_Guy @Shadowman311 I got a buddy pretty high up in one of the aircraft manufacturers, and when they were bringing an old design back, working from the original production kit/prints they STILL had all kinds of screwups until they re-learned what the old guys had forgotten in the 15 years since it was last produced.

     If they have issues with bolting and riveting a 1950's piston aircraft design back together, I'm betting a silicon wafer has a billion more points of failure

     BUT, I'm just theorizing through all this. If they do get the right guys there, then sure they could make it work...I'm just fully expecting them to put diversity first instead of letting the chinamen crack the whip and get things running smooth

   • TalmudTranslator (talmudtranslator@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 11:21:07 JST TalmudTranslator

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Some_German_Guy @Shadowman311 Yeah it would not be without issues but I just don't think it would be as bumpy as others. I have to imagine there is a evac plan for important workers in the plants as they have sabotage plans and explosive in order already. Although its all semi pointless as I don't think china would move on taiwan due to it making nato respond and at very very least sanctions fucking up their export economy, just seems like a situation where everyone would lose so it would not happen.
   • ProfessionalNEET (professionalneet@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 11:22:32 JST ProfessionalNEET

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     @TalmudTranslator @WashedOutGundamPilot @Some_German_Guy @Shadowman311 The human capital that runs Taiwan's fabs is why they achieve the yields they do with the Western equipment that enables it. The US could eventually approach yields comparable to TSMC by going full in with a national program (many of which from sophisticated countries have failed in the past at easier process nodes.)
     
     But this will never happen while the super stadium sized fabs have a nigger and faggot quota, not to mention state or localities obstructing production with other gay nonsense.
     
     State of the Art chips manufactured in the US (if they can even do it at all) will at best become many times more expensive to the point that they are outside of consumer reach. I will change my opinion if Intel gets their new EUV process working but all signs point to them continuing to fail as they have for the last decade as they cannot even make the software drivers for their silicon now.
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   • 🐦ulon :blobshp: (birdulon@shpposter.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Dec-2023 12:57:55 JST 🐦ulon :blobshp:

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Shadowman311 @Some_German_Guy @TalmudTranslator >they've been at it for a decade already and they're only just coming out with chips that are even somewhat competitive
     Putting out chips with TSMC N7-tier efficiency in 2023 is like lagging the cutting edge by half a decade. Incidentally, that's what Intel's fabrication looks like too with recent 14th gen results.
     
     It's probably enough for China and America to realize whatever government or military ambitions they have, even if losing Taiwan stalls future improvement for lack of a proven roadmap to copy. Consumer gear would be a bit worse for some years, but life goes on.
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