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🛡 ⚔️ McCreeaboo ⚔️ 🛡 (moebritannica@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:19:50 JST 🛡 ⚔️ McCreeaboo ⚔️ 🛡

seethe winfag
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:26:29 JST Kyonko802
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  @MoeBritannica lmao what kinda delusional take is this
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:27:18 JST Kyonko802
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  @tomie @MoeBritannica use mint edge. Default mint has an old ass kernel
  
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- tomie@gameliberty.club's status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:27:19 JST tomie
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  @MoeBritannica linuxtards lost long ago, I can't even launch Steam on mint
  
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- DarkMahesvara (darkmahesvara@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:37:39 JST DarkMahesvara
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  @tomie @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica old kernel should not prevent opening steam. linux is not windows if you want you can help yourself by simple running steam from the command line to get information.
  
  there are also like 5 different ways alone you could install steam. flatpak often fixes many issues
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:37:39 JST Kyonko802
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  @DarkMahesvara @tomie @MoeBritannica my thought was that he got a mismatched package somewhere because that was the problem I ran into. I was too lazy to switch to edge so I got flatpak steam for a while
  
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- tomie@gameliberty.club's status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:37:40 JST tomie
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  @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica well, and old ass kernel for an old ass hardware
  
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- namedoesntfi (namedoesntfi@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:38:44 JST namedoesntfi
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  @MoeBritannica
  "there was no reason for Microsoft to make a windows 10..."
  
  Uuh... money? Not counting more possibly intrusive reasons. :gura_dum:
  
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- DarkMahesvara (darkmahesvara@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:38:44 JST DarkMahesvara
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  @namedoesntfi @MoeBritannica normies think proprietary software is charity without underhanded motives
  
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- :meru_B: b e a r d (beardalaxy@gameliberty.club)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:41:57 JST :meru_B: b e a r d
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  @MoeBritannica dude's gonna lose a whole lot more than his privacy if he keeps using windows 7
  
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- ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️ (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:43:18 JST ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️
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  @MoeBritannica >If Valve can fix [sic] Linux with proton, why can't they do the same with Windows?
  I lost some braincells reading that.
  
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- special-padoru :verified: (special-boy@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:43:27 JST special-padoru :verified:
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  Lmao
  Does that nigger really think that they would fuck over the steam deck customers like that?
  
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- EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:50:08 JST EdBoatConnoisseur
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  @tomie @Kyonko802 @DarkMahesvara @MoeBritannica not really, the wizardry comes in when people insist on using debian stable and it's derivates (ubuntu, mint, mint debian edition) or arch and go full updaaaaater (update packages every day cuz muh bleedin edge) distros or branches of distros with saner package life times don't suffer like that (even debian testing requires less wizardry than ubuntu)
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:50:08 JST Kyonko802
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  @EdBoatConnoisseur @tomie @DarkMahesvara @MoeBritannica stable has been getting slightly better about packages. Mainly mint edge, popOS, and that new one that I forgot the name of that the GE guy made. I wouldn't bother giving this one advice, though
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- tomie@gameliberty.club's status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:50:09 JST tomie
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  @Kyonko802 @DarkMahesvara @MoeBritannica idk and idc why steam one day decided to stop working on mint; all I know that it doesn't and fixing that is just as annoying as everything else on linux and requires some obscure wizardry
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:59:51 JST Kyonko802
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  @tomie @EdBoatConnoisseur @DarkMahesvara @MoeBritannica no I just noticed you were being a passive aggressive shithead over some dumb software and devices to take a peak at your tl only to not be surprised at all
  
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- tomie@gameliberty.club's status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 22:59:52 JST tomie
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  @Kyonko802 @EdBoatConnoisseur @DarkMahesvara @MoeBritannica fragile masculinity on full display here i see
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:02:59 JST Kyonko802
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  @DarkMahesvara @BitterPill @EdBoatConnoisseur @MoeBritannica @tomie does nvidia seriously just randomly black screen on arch?
  
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- DarkMahesvara (darkmahesvara@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:03:00 JST DarkMahesvara
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  >black screen
  let me guess. nvidia
  
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- BitterPill (bitterpill@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:03:01 JST BitterPill
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  @EdBoatConnoisseur @tomie @DarkMahesvara @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica for me mint just works
  arch and manjaro was obnoxious with how frequently I'd end up with a black screen on startup because an update broke something
  
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- tomie@gameliberty.club's status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:07:58 JST tomie
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  @Kyonko802 @EdBoatConnoisseur @DarkMahesvara @MoeBritannica pls don't project yourself being a passive-aggressive shithead onto me, thank you ❤️ i was nothing but polite even while fully knowing that any linux thread turns into full on preaching about virtues of FOSS (even when it fails to do the simplest thing like launching Steam)
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:07:58 JST Kyonko802
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  @tomie @EdBoatConnoisseur @DarkMahesvara @MoeBritannica no you weren't. You launched into the same "linux is shitty" post and ignored all potential helping hands given to you when a polite "No thank you ill stick with what works for me" would have been fine. And now here you are being a stereotype and putting hearts on your post after someone notices you're an asshole. Go back to Twitter. You'll fit in wonderfully there.
  
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- DarkMahesvara (darkmahesvara@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:08:05 JST DarkMahesvara
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  @Kyonko802 @BitterPill @EdBoatConnoisseur @MoeBritannica @tomie no but people just do blind updates, ignore warnings and do not listen to the archwiki which explains you what you need to do if you use nvidia
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:12:36 JST Kyonko802
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  @DarkMahesvara @BitterPill @EdBoatConnoisseur @MoeBritannica @tomie BUT I MUST UPDATE OOOOOOOOOO IM UPDATIIIIIIIIIIIING
  
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- DarkMahesvara (darkmahesvara@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:15:43 JST DarkMahesvara
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  @Kyonko802 @BitterPill @EdBoatConnoisseur @MoeBritannica @tomie all of these update problems could be prevented anyways if people used snapshot filesystems like BTRFS and ZFS.
  
  >problem on linux
  >fixed 10 seconds later by rolling back to working snapshot
  
  >problem on windows
  >reinstall whole OS in like half an hour and pray it works
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:15:43 JST Kyonko802
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  @DarkMahesvara @BitterPill @EdBoatConnoisseur @MoeBritannica @tomie even reinstalling the whole os with a distro only takes ten minutes at most so you save time either way by comparison
  
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- BitterPill (bitterpill@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:15:48 JST BitterPill
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  @DarkMahesvara @Kyonko802 @EdBoatConnoisseur @tomie @MoeBritannica I spent weeks reading boring wiki shit. And even if I cared to read changelogs before every single update they will only ever mention issues when it's widespread enough to affect literally every fucking user. I had no idea how to "cherry pick" updates to avoid issues and I wasn't going to waste time learning that skill.
  And doing "blind updates" broke my system both when staying up to date every day and when postponing updating until days/weeks later.
  
  My mint system has been problem free and up to date for a year now.
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:17:31 JST Machismo
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  @special-boy @MoeBritannica They still can't deploy a decent client for loonix though.
  I assume they also can't deploy a decent client for Windows either but no sensible person gives half a fart about that.
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:20:13 JST Kyonko802
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  @Zerglingman @special-boy @MoeBritannica steam gas always been finicky as hell. As long as it launches my games idgaf.
  
  You should have seen it when it first came out. I couldn't play half life 2 for weeks because it didn't work properly.
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:22:14 JST Machismo
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  @Kyonko802 @special-boy @MoeBritannica I did. We installed steam for uhh.... I think it was before hl2. Maybe CS? I was going to say 1.6 but I don't know if it was 1.6 at that time. And I remember those problems.
  That doesn't mean the current steam is good. It's just shit in a different way. Goldberg go brrrrrr until the gamedev decides to be a dickbag.
  
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- Berkeley Berkman (berkberkman@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:25:41 JST Berkeley Berkman
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  @Kyonko802 @Zerglingman @special-boy @MoeBritannica Would a better example of an official Linux gaming client be Itch?
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:26:22 JST Machismo
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  @berkberkman @special-boy @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 No, pacman would:
  yun-wuxin:[wisknort]:~$ pacman -Q factorio
  factorio 1.1.100-1
  yun-wuxin:[wisknort]:~$ pacman -Q 0ad
  0ad a26-11
  yun-wuxin:[wisknort]:~$ pacman -Q xonotic
  xonotic 0.8.6-1
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:28:08 JST Machismo
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  @special-boy @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 @berkberkman Like... A repository that requires a token to access. I don't know if pacman can do this yet, but probably it can. So do that and then for each source, eg. volvo, you just add their repository, install your token, sync repo; and it only returns the packages for things you can actually download.
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:29:05 JST Kyonko802
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  @Zerglingman @berkberkman @special-boy @MoeBritannica that would be great for nerds who only run shit in command pine lmao
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:29:29 JST Machismo
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  @Kyonko802 @special-boy @berkberkman @MoeBritannica Low-quality bait.
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:30:23 JST Kyonko802
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  @Zerglingman @berkberkman @special-boy @MoeBritannica not bait I'm legitimately saying it would be cool. Just launch everything from there, including games.
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:32:01 JST Machismo
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  @Kyonko802 @special-boy @berkberkman @MoeBritannica pacman isn't a launcher. It's a package manager. A well-behaved package will provide its own .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ that then gets picked up in whatever launcher system you want to use. In my case, xfce4-whiskermenu is more than sufficient.
  
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- Berkeley Berkman (berkberkman@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:32:05 JST Berkeley Berkman
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  @Zerglingman @special-boy @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica It'll barely work on something like a Steam Deck. No wonder Itch has their own tutorial for it:
  https://itch.io/blog/393053/how-to-play-itchio-games-on-the-steam-deck
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:32:32 JST Machismo
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  @berkberkman @special-boy @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 Well, obviously, console steam is bad?
  
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- DarkMahesvara (darkmahesvara@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:33:37 JST DarkMahesvara
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  @Zerglingman @berkberkman @special-boy @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica at least this would stop the stupid steam forced game update install and make rollbacks easy
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:35:28 JST Machismo
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  @DarkMahesvara @special-boy @berkberkman @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 Motherfuckers need package management
  
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- DarkMahesvara (darkmahesvara@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:35:31 JST DarkMahesvara
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  @Kyonko802 @Zerglingman @MoeBritannica @berkberkman @special-boy all GUI package manager are just wrapper for the command line.
  
  pacman = termin
  pamac = gui for pacman
  
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- Narada (narada@foxgirl.lol)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:35:35 JST Narada
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  I love being able to install things from the command line. It's literally like saying "computer, install [thing]", and it just does it. Imagine having to search [thing], click on the website, click on the download, click next a bunch of times, and then maybe even have to restart afterward.
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:35:46 JST Kyonko802
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  @DarkMahesvara @Zerglingman @MoeBritannica @berkberkman @special-boy God could you imagine a world where steam didn't force updates? Skyrim would still be playable now instead of getting bricked by a random update for paid mods :kekw:
  
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  @narada @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 @special-boy @berkberkman GUI wrappers for package managers are fine too, if they ever work properly.
  
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- Berkeley Berkman (berkberkman@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:36:12 JST Berkeley Berkman
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  @Zerglingman @special-boy @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica While pacman is nice and all, it's a pain whenever you have to use a virtual keyboard to tweak everything on the go.
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  @berkberkman @special-boy @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 Low-quality bait
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:36:54 JST Kyonko802
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  @Zerglingman @berkberkman @narada @special-boy @MoeBritannica popOS's crashes fucking constantly
  
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- Narada (narada@foxgirl.lol)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:37:01 JST Narada
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  I like Synaptic. Makes it easy to search through a bunch of similar named things
  
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  @Kyonko802 @special-boy @narada @berkberkman @MoeBritannica >popos
  >installing steam removes DE
  >bug was present for MONTHS before Linus found it
  
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- DarkMahesvara (darkmahesvara@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:37:34 JST DarkMahesvara
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  @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Zerglingman @berkberkman @special-boy its for sure the worst thing about steam. there are some ways around it or just having a backup
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:38:26 JST Machismo
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  @DarkMahesvara @special-boy @berkberkman @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 I literally just don't use steam anymore. I use steamcmd to update stuff, and then use goldberg for the things that aren't giganiggers (or just run binary for the things that have no volvo DRM), and just ignore the rest.
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:38:42 JST Kyonko802
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  @Zerglingman @berkberkman @narada @special-boy @MoeBritannica popOS also still has an issue launching steam from gui. It's been an issue for about a year now if I remember. It straight up just doesn't work for a lot of people, especially newer amd cards
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:39:00 JST Machismo
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  @Kyonko802 @special-boy @narada @berkberkman @MoeBritannica popos is basically a meme distro, like ubuntu.
  
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- Narada (narada@foxgirl.lol)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:39:06 JST Narada
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  This brought shame onto the entire Linux world. I still haven't forgiven them
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:39:13 JST Machismo
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  @narada @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 @special-boy @berkberkman Normie filter working as intended
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:41:24 JST Kyonko802
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  @Zerglingman @berkberkman @narada @special-boy @MoeBritannica TOP TEN RECOMMENDED DISTROS FOR BEGINNERS. NUMBER ONE IS IF YOU CLICK ON STEAM IT WILL PERPETUALLY OPEN AND CRASH UNTIL YOU REBOOT
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:42:09 JST Machismo
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  @Kyonko802 @special-boy @narada @berkberkman @MoeBritannica Meme distros be cray
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:43:10 JST Kyonko802
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  @Zerglingman @berkberkman @narada @special-boy @MoeBritannica what's funny is it's not even a problem that really gets in the way of anything so they just ignore it lmao.
  
  I mean i get bug prioritization but something that in your face is just embarrassing
  
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- Narada (narada@foxgirl.lol)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:44:40 JST Narada
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  Given how expensive and powerful System76's machines are, you'd think being able to run the most common game platform would be a priority, but apparently not. Cheapest machine they sell is like $1,200
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:45:31 JST Kyonko802
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  @narada @berkberkman @Zerglingman @special-boy @MoeBritannica oh it can run it just fine. Just not through the gui :kekw:
  
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- anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 23:58:42 JST anonymous
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  @Zerglingman @narada @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @berkberkman @special-boy Synaptic :smug6:
  
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- luithe (luithe@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 00:40:20 JST luithe
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- tomie@gameliberty.club's status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 00:40:21 JST tomie
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  @Kyonko802 @EdBoatConnoisseur @DarkMahesvara @MoeBritannica
  I didn't ask for any helping hand in a first place but still was nothing but polite ❤️ so kindly thank you but I'd rather both stick to what works and to my own decisions regarding what to reply to "windows sux" shitposts
  
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- Suzu :miku_happy: (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 01:45:34 JST Suzu :miku_happy:
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  @Kyonko802 @Zerglingman @MoeBritannica @berkberkman @narada @special-boy problem is using meme distros that are a derivative of a derivative and, even worse, are based on LTS versions of said derivative that has very old libraries in it.
  LTS and "super stable" shit are pretty nice for servers, because you don't want to mess up with it after installing, except for security patches, but they suck for the desktop user. Desktop programs get feature updates way more often than server programs, and more often than not they'll require newer versions of libraries, which those meme distros won't have.
  Rolling release distros are also a meme (even though I use one) because by nature they can never be stable, as much as they are tested, simply because it's impossible to make sure that everything is 100% compatible with everything when you are doing incremental updates all the time.
  
  The best solution would be to use a distro with a shorter release time, and that is able to upgrade to the next stable release without breaking everything. I think only Fedora would fit this (and I'm not entirely sure you can reliably upgrade versions every time without fuss). But Fedora and Red Hat are pozzed and gay, so fuck them. The next best option would be Opensuse, which is a bit less pozzed and gay than Fedora.
  Or you could also use a "stable" distro with old as fuck packages, and install the desktop shit you need to have in the latest version as a flatpack. But for some reason, neckbeards have a blind hatred for flatpacks, so *shrug*
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 01:47:42 JST Machismo
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  @Suzu @special-boy @narada @berkberkman @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 It's because flatpak motherfuckers need package management.
  https://michael.orlitzky.com/./articles/motherfuckers_need_package_management.xhtml
  AKA: stop fucking bundling dependencies. It's a terrible idea, always was a terrible idea, always will be a terrible idea.
  
  There is nothing wrong with rolling release.
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- Narada (narada@foxgirl.lol)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 01:58:47 JST Narada
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  @Zerglingman @berkberkman @special-boy @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu I don't mind Flatpaks and the like. Every time I've ever had a problem with a program running, installing the Flatpak or getting an AppImage has always just solved it.
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 01:59:26 JST Machismo
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  @narada @special-boy @berkberkman @Suzu @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 In the same way that buying krusty krab hamburgers will solve the problem of burning your steamed clams.
  
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- anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:01:45 JST anonymous
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  @Zerglingman @narada @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu @berkberkman @special-boy I like appimages for most programs unless I use it very often. Hate having to uninstall all the shitware that is often lumped in alongside.
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:02:04 JST Machismo
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  @anonymous @special-boy @narada @berkberkman @Suzu @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 Motherfuckers need package management
  
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- anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:03:09 JST anonymous
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  @Zerglingman @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu @berkberkman @narada @special-boy Only if it’s listed prominently alongside somewhere what the libs and other programs are used by currently and/or pulled in with.
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:03:36 JST Machismo
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  @anonymous @special-boy @narada @berkberkman @Suzu @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 What?
  That just sounds like a package manager. Like a real one, not a fake and gay one.
  
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- anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:06:22 JST anonymous
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  @Zerglingman @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu @berkberkman @narada @special-boy Isn’t that what you’re asking for? Like a manager that installs libs and deps independently from the image? Or are you just talking about downloading the image from a central repo with a manager?
  Also what manager are you using neither apt or synaptic or pkg list what installed them or what they are being used by until you try to uninstall, then it becomes a game of whack-a-dep
  
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- laurel (laurel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:07:23 JST laurel
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  You can also employ one of the biggest benefits of OSS which is that you can compile it yourself.
  Recompiling applications depending on features you want and supporting libraries accordingly.
  
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- Narada (narada@foxgirl.lol)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:07:29 JST Narada
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  @anonymous @berkberkman @Zerglingman @special-boy @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu The whack a dep thing always drove me nuts. One of the greatest things about NixOS is how clean the declarative package management is
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:07:46 JST Machismo
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  @anonymous @special-boy @narada @berkberkman @Suzu @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 I refuse to believe apt is *that* shit. I'll believe synaptic.
  I use pacman. -Rus go brrrrrrrrr
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:08:22 JST Machismo
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  @narada @special-boy @berkberkman @Suzu @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 @anonymous I am still kinda interested in nix, but the more time I spend reading the matrix support room the less interested I am.
  
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- Suzu :miku_happy: (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:08:58 JST Suzu :miku_happy:
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  @Zerglingman @berkberkman @narada @special-boy @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica I started reading and thought "so this guy's solution is for everyone to use Gentoo", and lo and behold, his conclusion is exactly that.
  
  Look, as much as I love Gentoo and used it as my main distro for a couple of years, it's a chore to maintain it, and it's not the perfect silver bullet the guy is saying it is. There is nothing wrong in bundling your dependencies in specific desktop apps that are updated a lot and often conflict.
  
  The problem is that people are retarded, and then they enter this schizo mindset of "Oh no, now everything will have their own libraries bundled and now I have 1000 programs installed in my machine that will have their own libraries bundled and then a security update will come and I'll have to kill myself". You don't have 1000 different desktop programs installed on your machine, and flatpacks aren't for every fucking package, just for these big and shitty desktop apps that update all the time, like Steam or web browsers. No one is saying we should use flatpack to bundle ls or thunar, this shit is part of the base distro and should just be 100% compatible with the libraries bundled with the distro, it's the other shit that is the problem.
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:09:10 JST Machismo
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  @Suzu @special-boy @narada @berkberkman @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 So basically it's a cope for bad software.
  
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- Suzu :miku_happy: (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:09:13 JST Suzu :miku_happy:
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  @laurel @berkberkman @narada @Zerglingman @special-boy @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica cool.
  Now download Steam's source code and recompile it.
  
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- Narada (narada@foxgirl.lol)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:09:47 JST Narada
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  @Zerglingman @berkberkman @anonymous @special-boy @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu I love NixOS for servers. On desktop it can be kind of annoying to go around its quirks
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:11:15 JST Machismo
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  @narada @special-boy @berkberkman @anonymous @Suzu @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 In other words, it doesn't have much decent gui stuff?
  Anyway, the other reason I don't care so much about it is because my package management is already declarative:
  pacman -Qq > pkglist
  pacman -S $(cat pkglist)
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:11:33 JST Machismo
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  @special-boy @berkberkman @anonymous @Suzu @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 @narada Err, pacman -Qeq*
  
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- anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:11:44 JST anonymous
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  @Zerglingman @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu @berkberkman @narada @special-boy If the option to see these things are there I haven’t seen it.
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:12:00 JST Machismo
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  @anonymous @special-boy @narada @berkberkman @Suzu @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 It's probably buried in dpkg or something.
  
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- Narada (narada@foxgirl.lol)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:12:45 JST Narada
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  @Zerglingman @berkberkman @anonymous @special-boy @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu No, it's more that it has issues with executing binaries conveniently and installing anything not in the Nix repositories or on Flathub or something. The desktop works fine as it is.
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:13:07 JST Machismo
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  @narada @special-boy @berkberkman @anonymous @Suzu @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 Oh.
  makepkg go brrrrrrr
  
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- anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:13:18 JST anonymous
  in reply to
  @Zerglingman @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu @berkberkman @narada @special-boy If it’s buried it might as well not exist, making my point for me. If pacman works as well as you say it does that’s pretty nice, but I am making my way out of the tranny *nix ecosystem as much as possible already so it doesn’t help me much.
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:13:56 JST Machismo
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  @anonymous @special-boy @narada @berkberkman @Suzu @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 Fair enough. Install templeos.
  Or reactos.
  
  >If it’s buried it might as well not exist, making my point for me
  There's a reason I despise apt, afterall.
  
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- Suzu :miku_happy: (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:15:45 JST Suzu :miku_happy:
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  @Zerglingman @berkberkman @narada @anonymous @special-boy @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica I tried NixOS for a while, and as much as I like it and the idea of a fully declarative system, you have to do everything in it in a roundabout way that is specific to it, and it starts becoming very tiresome, and the few benefits this system has don't make up for the bulshit you need to endure.
  I have yet to try just Nix inside another distro. Maybe it can be good to have some specific set of apps set in a declarative way, without having to deal with the quirks of it in the entire system.
  
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- anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:16:02 JST anonymous
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  @Zerglingman @narada @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu @berkberkman @special-boy Wait you search through a text file that lists deps? Kind of like pkg (dep 1, dep 2, ...)? That’s pretty much how I do it (but always by eye because making the script is too much of a single pain in my ass). I mean it should have a feature to simply list these things like apt -l deps dep 1 and output something like dep 1 (dep2 [used by: dep 4], dep 3, ...).
  
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- anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:16:16 JST anonymous
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  @Zerglingman @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu @berkberkman @narada @special-boy bsd
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:17:28 JST Machismo
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  @anonymous @special-boy @narada @berkberkman @Suzu @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 pacman -Qi | awk '{I can never remember how to use awk, match for Name then the four kinds of depends}'
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:17:38 JST Machismo
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  @anonymous @special-boy @narada @berkberkman @Suzu @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 BaSeD
  
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- laurel (laurel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:17:45 JST laurel
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  I don't install Steam even as a binary.
  Still, it's not necessary to have all your software compiled from source and AppImage is a very good solution for containing bad software.
  Source distros like CRUX, Slack and Arch (not Gentoo, Gentoo forces you to learn the Gentoo™ way instead of Unix) do indeed allow you to only keep the necessary parts of your system bleeding edge.
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:17:53 JST Machismo
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  @laurel @special-boy @narada @berkberkman @MoeBritannica @Kyonko802 @Suzu >I don't install Steam even as a binary.
  based, steam sucks
  
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- anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:20:14 JST anonymous
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  @Zerglingman @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu @berkberkman @narada @special-boy Again, I ain’t going through that trouble. On first install I purge the garbage all at once so it’s one major pain in the ass and I’m mostly set after that, having to do only minor to moderate cleanups after.
  Moving to BSD means more self-compilation too which should hopefully lessen this burden dramatically.
  
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- DarkMahesvara (darkmahesvara@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:22:38 JST DarkMahesvara
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  @laurel @berkberkman @narada @Zerglingman @special-boy @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu
  
  >AppImage is a very good solution for containing bad software
  
  appimage does not contain anything except the things it needs to run. its like a .exe on windows with as much access to the system as the executing user
  
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- laurel (laurel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:26:35 JST laurel
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  @DarkMahesvara @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu @Zerglingman @berkberkman @narada @special-boy
  
  That's okay, I don't use it for security.
  No one should be running untrusted software in the first place. And if you want to run untrusted software then you'd better do it on a properly setup VM or an airgapped machine.
  
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- Suzu :miku_happy: (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:26:51 JST Suzu :miku_happy:
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  @laurel @berkberkman @narada @Zerglingman @special-boy @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica >source base distros like CRUX, Slackware and Arch
  
  Only CRUX is source based of these 3, Slackware and Arch use binary packages by default, so they have all the dependency problems that binary distros have.
  
  And I agree, AppImage and Flatpack solve the issue that certain programs have of having dependency problems. But, as I said, some people hate that.
  
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- anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:27:05 JST anonymous
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  @Zerglingman @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Suzu @berkberkman @narada @special-boy I also more-or-less finalized my computing scheme so I am a little excited to see it in action and see how well it handles my usual issues from years of growing in the *nix ecosystem (obviously not the same but a lot translates easily).
  
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- laurel (laurel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 02:30:03 JST laurel
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  @Suzu @Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @Zerglingman @berkberkman @narada @special-boy
  
  >Only CRUX is source based of these 3
  Yeah, I use CRUX but Slack and Arch are good entry points into source based distros. Once you get into the habit of reading and writing Pkgfiles it's very easy to go full source based.
  
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- 🛡 ⚔️ McCreeaboo ⚔️ 🛡 (moebritannica@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 18:14:44 JST 🛡 ⚔️ McCreeaboo ⚔️ 🛡
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  bruhh a hellthread over linux :akko_derp:
  
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  @MoeBritannica What did you expect? :guraKekw:
  
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