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1.  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 07:32:54 JST 

   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
   • NEETzsche
   @NEETzsche By the way, remember how your scrobble property MR got denied because it doesn't conform to muh standard? Take a look at that.
   https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/-/merge_requests/3975
   Actor used for signed fetches in Pleroma doesn't conform to the standard, either, which no one noticed because no one cares about it to begin with. Except Faceberg, apparently; everyone but Pleroma was able to fetch profiles from threads.net. Considering that majority of @lanodan's recent statuses consists of their hateboner for Meta, thus indirectly confirming that status quo might be in their interest, what do you think are the odds of the issue being taken care of?
   • NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 07:40:30 JST NEETzsche

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:

     Very low.

     I got accusatory and even rude right off the bat when Lanodan came right out the gate with "um we won't touch this until after you totally rewrite it in this completely arbitrary way" and I'm feeling quite vindicated with that disposition now. These people have a need to be oblique about their actual intentions and I've learned, over the years, how to suss out what things are really about.

     Muh standard is a pretext at best. Not only does Pleroma not care about the standard, but I bet if I cherry-picked @alex 's commit and tried to submit it to Pleroma with maybe rewriting the commit message to "better ActivityPub spec conformity" or something like that, it wouldn't get accepted. Even if I directly supported it with the spec's actual exact words.

     @hj didn't want to merge my commit that includes the url field for scrobbling based on a misreading of the ActivityPub spec. The url field can be any representation of the Audio document, like a page about the document or an audio file, or, yes, a web page that streams the audio file. He insisted on me putting the user-submitted YouTube/SoundCloud/whatever URLs into externalLink for reasons.

     It's farcical. I'm unlikely to try to work with these people again.

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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 07:43:12 JST 

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • NEETzsche
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     @NEETzsche @alex @lanodan @hj I got blocked, it seems. Not sure if it's because I copied the wrong link by accident or what else.
     Correct link for those instances that don't support edits: https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/-/issues/3219
   • The Problem (marine@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 07:45:40 JST The Problem

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • NEETzsche
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:

     @mint @alex @NEETzsche @lanodan @hj my guess is you got blocked because you said something they didn’t like :nkoShrug:

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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 07:48:48 JST 

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • NEETzsche
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     • The Problem
     @marine @alex @NEETzsche @lanodan @hj Perhaps. I also never got credited in changelog for attachment attribution security fix.
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   • NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 07:55:16 JST NEETzsche

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     • The Problem

     I know I just said that I wouldn't work with them, but as a gesture of good will I will submit fixing their federation: https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/-/merge_requests/4000

     It lists where I got the information from, who wrote the original commit, and why it's important per ActivityPub standards. They can click merge or they can let their shit stay broken lol

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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 07:56:09 JST 

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • NEETzsche
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     • The Problem
     @NEETzsche @marine @alex @lanodan @hj Congrats on the get.
   • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/ (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 08:15:48 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • NEETzsche
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     • The Problem
     @mint @marine @alex @NEETzsche @lanodan @hj Nahhh, I am pretty sure ryona.agency has been on block-lists for a long time now.
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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 08:16:55 JST 

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • NEETzsche
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/
     • The Problem
     @TheMadPirate @marine @alex @NEETzsche @lanodan @hj I think only one instance hosted by one of remaining core Pleroma devs blocks me.
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   • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/ (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 08:20:43 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • NEETzsche
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     • The Problem
     @mint @marine @alex @NEETzsche @lanodan @hj My hypothesis is that Threads actively uses Block-Lists as a federation gatekeeping as an integrated part of their platform.
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   • NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 08:21:07 JST NEETzsche

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/
     • The Problem

     Is that a basis for not doing real attributions to contributors?

   • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/ (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 08:21:07 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • NEETzsche
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     • The Problem
     @NEETzsche @marine @alex @lanodan @mint @hj I was talking about the Threads issue, not the Pleroma devs one.
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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 08:22:12 JST 

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • NEETzsche
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/
     • The Problem
     @NEETzsche @marine @TheMadPirate @alex @lanodan @hj There's definely no whitelist as I was able to fetch the actors from virtually unknown instance. Some sort of blocklist might be in place, Alex confirmed that at least poast, spinster and mostr are blocked.
   • NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 08:22:13 JST NEETzsche

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/
     • The Problem

     They're probably going much further by using a whitelist

   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 08:24:17 JST 

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • NEETzsche
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/
     • The Problem
     @NEETzsche @TheMadPirate @alex @hj @lanodan @marine The full connectivity from both sides might require explicitly being on their lists, though. Why then bother with signed fetches, no idea.
   • NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 08:25:11 JST NEETzsche

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/
     • The Problem

     I'm on the blocklist, too

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   • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/ (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 08:27:20 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • NEETzsche
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     • The Problem
     @NEETzsche @marine @alex @lanodan @mint @hj I'm sure there are quite a lot more instances like FSE, DRC, and Bae.st blocked too.
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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 08:27:51 JST 

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • NEETzsche
     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/
     • The Problem
     @TheMadPirate @marine @alex @NEETzsche @lanodan @hj FSE doesn't sign their fetches, so it's a moot point.