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1. Owl (lonelyowl@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 00:58:35 JST Owl
   Threads is testing federation for a few selected profiles. I assume they also have some kind of whitelist of instances or software, because out of the 8 instances i have accounts on, federation with threads only works on lorsh/mastodon. Or maybe it's just buggy at the moment.
   
   https://lor.sh/@mosseri@threads.net
   
   It's still a huge step forward. Now if you have a normie friend who whines about elon's bad decisions but says fedi is too complicated when you suggest it as an alternative, IT'S YOUR DUTY to call them a lazy retard 🙂
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 00:58:48 JST Machismo

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     @lonelyowl It always was my duty to call them a lazy retard.
   • SunMcNukes (sunmcnukes@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 00:59:06 JST SunMcNukes

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     @lonelyowl this is a tremendous milestone. I think they're federating with the big Mastodon instances who had talks with the Meta team for now so we could expect the fedi walled garden to federate them anytime in 2024. This new incursion from Big Tech to the free internet looks very similar to the XMPP fall a few decades ago and we're in the front seat to watch.
     Also, NPCs will NPC so don't give them much hope.
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   • Owl (lonelyowl@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 00:59:10 JST Owl

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     @SunMcNukes
     
     It is now federated with lorsh and aipub, both relatively small. However, this account seems to be unreachable from any non-mastodon instances, i assume this is a temporary technical limitation.
     
     I prefer to be neither very optimistic nor pessimistic about it, if this will shift normietards towards free and decentralized web - great, if not - we lose nothing 🤷♀️
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   • SunMcNukes (sunmcnukes@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 00:59:10 JST SunMcNukes

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     @lonelyowl that's right, just grab some popcorn and share some memes.
   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 00:59:21 JST Machismo

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     • SunMcNukes
     @SunMcNukes @lonelyowl XMPP still works and it's still good.
   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:00:59 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     • SunMcNukes
     @Zerglingman @SunMcNukes @lonelyowl so does email, unlike XMPP, email is actually used and has federation. And comparing things to email is extremely low bar.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:02:05 JST Machismo

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     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up @lonelyowl @SunMcNukes Email is good too.
     >unlike XMPP, email is actually used
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     >and has federation.
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     Low-quality bait.
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   • burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:04:04 JST burner

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     email sucks, 99% of users are on mail servers that block 99% of servers
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:04:23 JST Machismo

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     @burner @SunMcNukes @lonelyowl @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up None of those servers block me. :)
   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:05:15 JST 

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     @lonelyowl
     https://threads.net/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct:zuck@threads.net -> redirect to frontend
     https://threads.net/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct:mosseri@threads.net -> actual webfinger response
     I guess Zucc doesn't want to federate himself for whatever reason, despite making a test post on his own account.
   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:05:49 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     • SunMcNukes
     @burner @SunMcNukes @Zerglingman @lonelyowl that's like saying that borders suck just because my 1% country virtually blocks 99% of niggers.
   • SunMcNukes (sunmcnukes@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:06:24 JST SunMcNukes

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     • Machismo
     @Zerglingman @lonelyowl luckily for us XMPP is rock solid but there was an attempt to kill it long time ago when Google Talk and WhatsApp decided to adopt it, grab all the normies and defederate by changing the protocol and closing it to the public.
     I'm not an oracle and Meta may or may not repeat those "divide and conquer" tactics, I just had flashbacks.
   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:07:07 JST 

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     @lonelyowl Both AP actors return HTML page, maybe they routed it separately.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:07:47 JST Machismo

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     • SunMcNukes
     @SunMcNukes @lonelyowl Oh it's almost certain they will.
     But we can just continue ignoring them. If the mastodongs decide they really must continue to federate with the other NPCs and in doing so breaks themselves off from us, that sounds like a net positive to me.
     (Also don't forget Facebook was involved in the XMPP EEE.)
   • burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:07:53 JST burner

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     no, it sucks because if you want to communicate with people professionally, you need to pay like 8 bucks a month per account for gmail, outlook, etc
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:09:19 JST Machismo

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     @burner @SunMcNukes @lonelyowl @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up ?
     Skill issue? I run my own mail server. It actually can't reach gmail right this minute because I have been very lazy about getting the PTR moved after losing my old domain, but that's the only thing they've ever rejected me for.
     sjw's mail server is also fine, and some of his domains are benign enough.
   • SunMcNukes (sunmcnukes@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:09:26 JST SunMcNukes

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     • Machismo
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     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up @Zerglingman @lonelyowl SMTP is a terrible protocol and it's still used due to the ease of surveillance. Office rats could have dropped it years ago.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:09:34 JST Machismo

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     @SunMcNukes @lonelyowl @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up Haha GPG go brrrrr
   • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:09:37 JST Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

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     • Machismo
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     @SunMcNukes @Zerglingman @lonelyowl There's not enough people on Fedi to make Threads a success even if we all migrated there today.
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   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:09:48 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     @burner @SunMcNukes @Zerglingman @lonelyowl file for bankruptcy if your company can't afford 8 bucks for a domain name that's already a requirement for hosting your own email servers, ignoring hundreds of thousands in hardware required for servers itselves when you're in "professional" field.
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   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:09:56 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     • Machismo
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     @SunMcNukes @Zerglingman @lonelyowl you're using federated communication right now and I'm logging everything you post.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:11:31 JST Machismo

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     @SunMcNukes @lonelyowl @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up SMTP is fine, though several of the extensions don't actually really achieve much.
   • burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:11:42 JST burner

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     ? we can afford it, it's just that it sucks that you're basically locked to big providers. Though from what @Zerglingman said, I may be incorrect about that.
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   • SunMcNukes (sunmcnukes@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:13:12 JST SunMcNukes

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     @caekislove @Zerglingman @lonelyowl just like Google Talk held the vast majority of users before defederation. Instagram should surpass the fedi user base by large.
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   • burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:13:24 JST burner

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     and gmail/outlook make you pay per seat, the domain isn't the issue.
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   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:14:25 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     • Machismo
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     @burner @SunMcNukes @Zerglingman @lonelyowl You literally only require a domain name and port 25 open, you can run an email server at home, and if you're the only user of your email, literally any hardware from past 2 decades will be able to deal with receiving and sending email.
   • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:14:30 JST Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

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     @SunMcNukes @Zerglingman @lonelyowl For some reason "exactly like instagram, but with less pictures and videos" wasn't a compelling product for instagram's current userbase 😂
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:14:47 JST Machismo

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     @SunMcNukes @lonelyowl @caekislove Spam "nigger" at them. It's important.
   • burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:14:54 JST burner

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     won't gmail/outlook block you?
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:15:45 JST Machismo

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     @burner @SunMcNukes @lonelyowl @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up Microsoft haven't, but I did have a lot of trouble getting to them initially from a VPS, which turned out to be port 25 being blocked on ipv4, and gmail are apparently the only server with ipv6 configured lol
   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:15:56 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     • Machismo
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     @burner @SunMcNukes @Zerglingman @lonelyowl Despite what you see on internet, google isn't evil enough to go out of their way to block email not coming from google.
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   • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:16:57 JST Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

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     @burner @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up @SunMcNukes @Zerglingman @lonelyowl No commercial email service would ever take messages from an email server hosted on a residential IP. Even most VPS IP ranges are blocked. There's a reason corporations just pay Google or MS for email.
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   • SunMcNukes (sunmcnukes@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:17:03 JST SunMcNukes

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     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up @Zerglingman @lonelyowl non sequitur. XMPP has OTR and OMEMO and SMTP basically lets your assigned alphabet agent correct your grammar. Yes, both fedi and XMPP honeypots exist but their weakness don't reside in protocol issues.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:17:27 JST Machismo

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     @lonelyowl @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up @SunMcNukes @burner
     I should probably shut that VPS down or something since it's not doing anything at the moment anyway. But $12/yr is an amazing rate so I'm going to keep paying for it. I don't want to lose it.
   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:18:11 JST Machismo

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     @caekislove @lonelyowl @SunMcNukes @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up @burner I haven't seen this happen as yet, but I haven't tried much.
     But I haven't seen it happen on fedora.email and that's currently my main account.
   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:18:23 JST Machismo

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     @SunMcNukes @lonelyowl @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up Haha GPG go brrrrrrrr
   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:18:29 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     @caekislove @SunMcNukes @Zerglingman @lonelyowl @burner I guess google mail isn't commercial enough because works on my machine.
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   • Mamako (mamako@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:18:38 JST Mamako

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     @Zerglingman @SunMcNukes @lonelyowl @burner you’ll never get it back if you end it.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:19:05 JST Machismo

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     @Mamako @burner @lonelyowl @SunMcNukes Yeah I just want it to spin down so it's not consuming their resources.
   • burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:19:07 JST burner

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     yeah, this is my understanding.
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   • burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:19:18 JST burner

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     mine's 10 a month lol
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   • SunMcNukes (sunmcnukes@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:19:23 JST SunMcNukes

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     @Zerglingman @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up @lonelyowl the swiss knife of encryption. Better use it and not need it.
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   • SunMcNukes (sunmcnukes@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 01:20:28 JST SunMcNukes

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     @caekislove @Zerglingman @lonelyowl make the Kardashians and the nignog rappers flaunt it and watch the herds pour in.
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   • ≠ Brett Stevens ≠ (amerika@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 10:19:06 JST ≠ Brett Stevens ≠

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     @SunMcNukes @caekislove @Zerglingman @lonelyowl
     
     Even threads is going to obliterate an audience of six million users, less than a million of whom regularly show up.
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