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@TheEternalBungholio @randbot @TinyFern can give you a pretty solid response, she's had a thread or two about abos in the past. @Fenian might have something to share as well given the current situation in Alice Springs.
My response would just be to assert that Abos need a firm hand to protect them from themselves. Otherwise they will continue to rape their own children, destroy the homes given to them by the government and just drink and smoke their lives away.
In terms of welfare Abos have access to a vast amount of Abo specific programs. Programs which the average White Australian doesn't get. This includes housing, money, study assistance/scholarships and so on. They do pretty well, in my opinion, but the full-blooded Abos don't want to work or study. Which is why you generally only see half or quarter bloods doing the activism.
Lastly, what rights do White Australians have which Abos don't also have? This native title crap and the like is just rent-seeking. They did not own Australia before settlement. Nor were there any nations before the White man came.
You should ask this apologist how much money they're giving to paytherent.net.au/ and if they're not paying tell them to stop being an abuser.
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@TheEternalBungholio @randbot @TinyFern @Fenian On the topic of welfare there's a calculator that the government have which lets you estimate the amount of assistance you might get. Putting my details in (student, working part-time, no assets beyond a car) here's how much each fortnight I might qualify for:
Me as a White man: $721.40
Me as an Aboriginal: $828.80
So just being an Aboriginal I would qualify for an extra ~$100 a fortnight.
Now this is only looking at the government's study assistance. This doesn't account for any Abo specific scholarships and other assistance I would qualify for as an Abo.
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@randbot I've heard Abo apologists bring up these kind of arguments which effectively boil down to them being victims of institutional/system racism:
- Aborigines are subject to rigorous policing with cops escalating situations because there is mutual distrust. Police know the Aborigine communities don't trust them, and Aborigine communities don't trust them because the government was doing state sponsored kidnappings within living memory. There's a swath of Aborigines living today who were taken from their parents by the state for having a black parent, causing intergenerational trauma that's been imposed by the state here. The White Australia Policy wasn't done away with until 1979.
- Aborigines don't receive as much welfare as the right claims when accounting for cost of living. An Aussie anon was rationing his food because he couldn't afford three square meals a day, plus rent, plus bills, plus random expenses like transport and/or fuel for his car. It'd be worse if he was living by himself because 2/3 of the dole would disappear immediately into rent each week, meaning that for food, transport, power, water, internet, phone credit etc., he'd be left with $100. A healthy variety of food is probably $50/week. Then internet is about $20, and let's say $10 for weekly fuel or bus/train fares (that's being very stingy at the prices here).
- The Federal and State governments ignore Aboriginal rights when there is money involved. Kakadu National Park is an example where native title holders and the government are in the courts right now because the latter keeps trying to do stuff that the former hasn't approved.
Anyone down under wish to give a response to this?
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