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1. Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 18:38:15 JST Aral Balkan

   Article 3 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

   “Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.”

   Israel:

   “Except Palestinians.”

   The US and other Western democracies:

   “Except Palestinians.”

   #israel #palestine #gaza #genocide #ethnicCleansing #UDHR #UDHR75

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 18:57:00 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Tio

     @tio True.

   • Tio (tio@social.trom.tf)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 18:57:01 JST Tio

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     @aral To be fair, putting aside the terrible wars happening, no one can live on this planet without trading.... you can't be a good human being, do good thing, and survive. You have no access to food, water, shelter and the necessities of life... This is terrible.
   • Timo Tiuraniemi (ttiurani@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 19:20:52 JST Timo Tiuraniemi

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     • Tio

     @tio @aral

     I don't believe this is true.

     We are heterotrophs and need to consume other life to survive. However, that doesn't mean we must consume more than what nature can regenerate. There are hundreds of millions of people living in harmony with nature, doing good things, right now.

     In fact, we can also feed 10 billion people sustainably:

     https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/how-feed-10-billion-people

     The problem ofc is that our societies, especially in the Global North, actively prevent this.

     Let's change them.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 19:20:52 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Timo Tiuraniemi
     • Tio

     @ttiurani @tio You’re both arguing the same point :) (@tio was criticising the way things are today; his work is entirely based on creating alternatives to the status quo he described)

   • Timo Tiuraniemi (ttiurani@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 19:32:05 JST Timo Tiuraniemi

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     • Tio

     @tio @aral

     I probably misunderstood, but replied to this:

     "no one can live on this planet without trading.... you can't be a good human being, do good thing, and survive."

     which I understand to argue that no one on the planet can be a good human being and survive at the same time?

     There are both (indigenous) people living directly off the land, and people within societies consuming very little, but still enough to not only survive but also have a good life.

     So "no one" is not true.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 19:32:05 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Timo Tiuraniemi
     • Tio

     @ttiurani @tio He means in our so-called modern societies. As in you can’t in London or New York or whatever city or town you or I live in and that we should try and change that.

   • Tio (tio@social.trom.tf)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 19:32:06 JST Tio

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     • Timo Tiuraniemi
     • Tio
     @aral @ttiurani Maybe you misread or misunderstood. For one we need to consume food. That can be plants or animals. Nutrients. Second, show me in what society humans can simple have a life (access to their basic needs) without trading (having a job, making a business, etc.).
   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 20:41:24 JST Aral Balkan

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     • GunChleoc

     @gunchleoc … the Kurds, you forgot the Kurds.

   • GunChleoc (gunchleoc@mastodon.scot)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 20:41:25 JST GunChleoc

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     @aral And except Armenians, Afghans, any PoC in a small boat on the Mediterranean or arriving in the UK, and anybody else I forgot to mention...

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 20:42:47 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Anti Alles Aktion

     @2_beers Oh, is that what all Palestinians think? Gee, I wonder if there’s a word for tarnishing an entire people with the same brush?… When it is done to Jews, we call it antisemitism.

   • Anti Alles Aktion (2_beers@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 20:42:48 JST Anti Alles Aktion

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     @aral@ar.al Palestinians: “except Palestinians… and Jews, and homosexuals, and women, and anyone who criticizes Hamas”

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 20:43:44 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Martin Schröder

     @oneiros #ByCommittingGenocide

   • Martin Schröder (oneiros@ruhr.social)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 20:43:45 JST Martin Schröder

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     @aral
     #FreeGazaFromHamas

   • G3rn0ti (g3rn0ti@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 11-Dec-2023 05:08:58 JST G3rn0ti

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     @aral And what about the right to life, liberty and security of the people Hamas took hostage, raped or killed? Perhaps you should direct your concerns towards Hamas and their Palestianian supporters, too.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 11-Dec-2023 05:08:58 JST Aral Balkan

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     • G3rn0ti

     @g3rn0ti https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/111550845094350790