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1. Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 02:58:26 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

   You can create threads on Mastodon using the traditional method:

   1. Post first part of thread
   2. Reply to first part with second part
   3. Reply to second part with third etc

   Some third-party apps and services also have thread creation tools.

   It's a good idea to number threads so that people who notice one part will explore the rest.

   Also, set first post to "public" visibility but replies to "unlisted", to avoid filling public timelines.

   Lots more info on threads at https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-post-a-thread-on-mastodon/

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 05:35:20 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • Dallas (Join Something IRL)

     @1dalm

     It depends what software your admin is running.

     There's no official setting in Mastodon to adjust the character limit so it has to be done unofficially (by fiddling with the software's files outside the graphic interface), or the server has to switch to a fork like Glitch.

   • Dallas (Join Something IRL) (1dalm@deacon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 05:35:21 JST Dallas (Join Something IRL)

     in reply to

     @feditips

     You can also just ask your admin to increase the character count if you have a lot to say.

   • artisanrox (artisanrox@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 09:22:27 JST artisanrox

     in reply to

     @feditips

     and PLEASE DON'T BOOST EACH INDIVIDUAL THREAD POST.

     thank you. :catroll:

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:01:23 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • Joe Hill 🇮🇱🇵🇸🇺🇦

     @Joe_Hill

     I'm not sure what you're using to view Mastodon, but usually if you click on a post in a thread it opens the entire thread?

   • Joe Hill 🇮🇱🇵🇸🇺🇦 (joe_hill@union.place)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:01:24 JST Joe Hill 🇮🇱🇵🇸🇺🇦

     in reply to

     @feditips I’ve found it best to post all subsequent posts as replies to the first post. That way, all posts are displayed by clicking on the first post vs each post appearing singly with a reply, which requires a separate click for each subsequent reply.
     (Hope that makes sense)
     I’m using the generic Mastodon app.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:05:48 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • 💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱
     • Joe Hill 🇮🇱🇵🇸🇺🇦

     @SmartmanApps @Joe_Hill

     Yeah, I've just tried this again on the official Mastodon app and it definitely opens the entire thread whichever post you click on.

     There is no need to post all replies to the first post.

   • 💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱 (smartmanapps@dotnet.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:05:52 JST 💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱

     in reply to

     • Joe Hill 🇮🇱🇵🇸🇺🇦

     @Joe_Hill @feditips
     Clarification, in fact clicking on ANY post in the thread opens up the whole thread.

   • 💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱 (smartmanapps@dotnet.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:05:55 JST 💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱

     in reply to

     • Joe Hill 🇮🇱🇵🇸🇺🇦

     @Joe_Hill @feditips
     I reply to each post - i.e. post 3 is a reply to post 2 - and in the Mastodon web interface clicking on the first post opens up the whole thread.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:07:39 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • 💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱

     @SmartmanApps

     Yes, as far as I know all the apps take you to the thread if you click on a post from within the thread.

     I normally do similar thing with notepad to do a long thread in advance. There are also apps and services that will do this for you.

   • 💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱 (smartmanapps@dotnet.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:07:40 JST 💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱

     in reply to

     @feditips
     So, if you set the subsequent posts to unlisted, and someone from the public clicks on the first post, they will see the whole thread?

     Also, I type it up in Mastodon until I near the limit, then copy to Notepad, then ditto for 2nd post, etc., then when I'm at the end I can add the right numbering (e.g. 1/9), and copy them from Notepad back to Mastodon and post them. This also helps with getting the right char count for each, cos of things like URLs only counting for 23 chars, etc.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:09:52 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • 💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱
     • Joe Hill 🇮🇱🇵🇸🇺🇦

     @SmartmanApps @Joe_Hill

     Unlisted is exactly the same as public, except it doesn't show up in hashtag searches or the Federated or Local timelines.

   • 💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱 (smartmanapps@dotnet.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:09:53 JST 💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱

     in reply to

     • Joe Hill 🇮🇱🇵🇸🇺🇦

     @feditips @Joe_Hill
     Ok, but does clicking on a public post open up all the unlisted posts too? That's what I'm not clear about. I'm not sure exactly how unlisted works.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:12:08 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     p.s. Just to clarify, the "unlisted" visibility setting for posts is almost exactly like the public setting, anyone can see it.

     The only difference is unlisted posts don't show up on the Federated or Local timelines, and don't show up in hashtag searches.

     More info about post visibility settings:

     https://fedi.tips/who-can-see-my-posts-in-mastodon-how-do-i-send-dms-in-mastodon/

   • Nazo (nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:40:06 JST Nazo

     in reply to

     @feditips This post showed up on my timeline though. 😁

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:40:06 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • Nazo

     @nazokiyoubinbou

     It will show up on your Home timeline if you're following me, but it won't show up on your Federated timeline (obviously not hugely relevant on mastodon.social though as Federated is unusable there though... 😀 ) or Local if you were on same server as me.

   • Nazo (nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:42:32 JST Nazo

     in reply to

     @feditips Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding. I am indeed following.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:42:32 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • Nazo

     @nazokiyoubinbou

     No worries!

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 15:02:38 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • NilaJones

     @NilaJones

     You can make your posts only visible to your followers by doing the following two things:

     1. Lock your account so that you have to approve who follows you (more info: https://fedi.tips/restricting-who-can-follow-you-in-mastodon/)

     2. Set your default posting visibility to followers-only (more info: https://fedi.tips/who-can-see-my-posts-in-mastodon-how-do-i-send-dms-in-mastodon/)

     If you do both these things, only your followers will see your posts and only people you approve will be able to follow you.

   • NilaJones (nilajones@zeroes.ca)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 15:02:39 JST NilaJones

     in reply to

     @feditips

     I read the fedi tips section twice, but I don't see an answer to my question:-)

     What if I want to be visible to as many people on Mastodon as possible, but not visible to people who don't have an account?

     Thanks!

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 15:05:16 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • Potung Thul
     • Tim Boucher

     @t_i_m @potungthul

     Yeah, the name for "unlisted" is sort of misleading.

     It is still a public post, anyone can see unlisted posts, even people who don't have an account on here.

     The only post visibilities which restrict who can see them are "followers only" and "mentions only".

   • Tim Boucher (t_i_m@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 15:05:17 JST Tim Boucher

     in reply to

     • Potung Thul

     @potungthul @feditips I think the point is that “unlisted” doesn’t mean private. It means the post won’t show up in some places on its own. It’s in the context of doing a thread by replying to yourself multiple times without having each individual post show up in public timelines. Instead only make the first post public, so that the start of the thread can be discovered by anyone.
     The p.s. is because people got confused by the distinction.

   • Potung Thul (potungthul@toot.io)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 15:05:18 JST Potung Thul

     in reply to

     @feditips
     I'm not clear on the intent behind that post...
     "Unlisted is just like Public, except it does not show up on federated or local timelines or hash tag searches or text searches."
     But doesn't that make all the difference? Unless you happen to have lots of lots of followers, the Unlisted status would generally keep people from seeing your post, wouldn't it?

     It would be like saying, Not hitting the Post button is same as hitting the Post button, except that people won't see your posts.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 15:08:52 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • Potung Thul
     • Tim Boucher

     @t_i_m @potungthul

     By the way, when I mention "federated" and "local" timelines, I don't mean your home timeline. There's a guide to the timelines here: https://fedi.tips/what-are-the-local-federated-home-timelines-how-do-i-stop-them-scrolling-too-quickly/

     I need to update the article slightly though as Local and Federated are now both in the "Live Feeds" sectino.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 01:34:48 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • NilaJones

     @NilaJones

     There is no visibility setting that makes a post visible to everyone but requires people to log in to see it.

   • NilaJones (nilajones@zeroes.ca)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 01:34:49 JST NilaJones

     in reply to

     @feditips

     Thank you for your reply but it doesn't solve my problem

     What I want is for my posts, as I said, to be:

     1. Visible to as many people as possible on Mastodon (NOT just my followers),

     and

     2. Not visible to people who don't have a mastodon account

     Is this impossible?

   • Helen Clayton (helenclayton@mas.to)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 01:35:13 JST Helen Clayton

     in reply to

     • NilaJones

     @NilaJones @feditips I saw a post which said that it’s possible to set preferences so that posts are not searchable in external search engines - that might help you. But I can’t find that option in my preferences - maybe not available with all instances?

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 01:35:13 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • Helen Clayton
     • NilaJones

     @helenclayton @NilaJones

     Public posts would still be visible to people who don't have an account.

   • Adam Blažek (xigoi@social.filik.eu)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 01:36:42 JST Adam Blažek

     in reply to

     • NilaJones

     @NilaJones @feditips How would the visibility option you suggested help with a stalker? Anyone can easily make a Mastodon account.

   • NilaJones (nilajones@zeroes.ca)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 01:36:43 JST NilaJones

     in reply to

     • Adam Blažek

     @xigoi @feditips

     I want to relax and not censor myself, without worrying about the internet stalker who made an attempt on my life IRL

     But thanks for asking

   • Adam Blažek (xigoi@social.filik.eu)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 01:36:48 JST Adam Blažek

     in reply to

     • NilaJones

     @NilaJones @feditips Why? Do you want Mastodon to become a walled garden like Twitter?

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 01:37:05 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • Adam Blažek
     • NilaJones

     @xigoi @NilaJones

     Yeah, if you are concerned about unwanted people seeing a post would strongly recommend follower-only posts and switching on follower-screening.

     Otherwise anyone can sign up and see the post.

   • Synkr3tyk (synkr3tyk@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 05:05:19 JST Synkr3tyk

     in reply to

     @feditips I see that it *does* show up in my timeline when someone I follow boosts it. Is this the intended behavior?

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 05:05:19 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • Synkr3tyk

     @synkr3tyk

     Unlisted will show up in your Home timeline if someone you follow posts it or shares it, that's intended behaviour.

     It just doesn't show up on the "Local" and "Federated" timelines, or in any searches.

     More info about the different timelines here:

     https://fedi.tips/what-are-the-local-federated-home-timelines-how-do-i-stop-them-scrolling-too-quickly/

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 13:42:47 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • NilaJones

     @NilaJones

     Yes, unlisted posts are visible to everyone.

     The only difference between unlisted and public modes is the unlisted ones don't show up on Mastodon searches or Mastodon's "Federated" and "Local" timelines.

   • NilaJones (nilajones@zeroes.ca)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 13:42:48 JST NilaJones

     in reply to

     @feditips

     Again, I'm not trying to have a post be visible to everyone

     I am trying to have it be visible as to as many people as possible, but only to people who have logged in

     Are 'unlisted' posts visible to people who are not logged in?

   • MostlyTato (mostlytato@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 06:04:58 JST MostlyTato

     in reply to

     @feditips
     I'd definitely emphasise the unlisted thing. I see so many threads that fill my entire timeline because people don't know this. I want to read the entire thread anyway but I don't want it to block out everything else on my timeline.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:00:11 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

     in reply to

     • Cory Doctorow

     @pluralistic

     I don't mean the Home timeline, I mean the Local and Federated timelines and the search function.

   • Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 09:00:12 JST Cory Doctorow

     in reply to

     @feditips This is wrong. It's a common misunderstanding (so common I think it qualifies as the fediverse's first urban legend), but still wrong.

     Unlisted toots are hidden only for nonfollowers on the same instance, not followers.

     More here:
     https://pluralistic.net/2023/04/16/how-to-make-the-least-worst-mastodon-threads/