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@amiloradovsky @cell @sim @newt I think all city living is stressful. It's much nicer to hear birds chirping and an occasional dog barking than horns and sirens and constant construction. And having the space to store materials and tools and build skills using them to make things is satisfying and de-stressing. When I lived in the city and was doing well for myself mostly I just worked and played video games. When I was not doing well for myself I mostly worked and played video games (and drank). Here I can actually do what I want and build things and make changes in real life instead of Minecraft. There are over 10k people here, but I live in an older part of town that is full of old homes with actual yard space. Most of my yard space is for animals or food producing plants and I'm always looking for ways to improve/optimize for my own goals.
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@amiloradovsky @cell @newt @sim I'm not disagreeing with the fact that you've had negative experiences BTW. Just saying for me the whole idea of living in any area where you can't spread out a little bit means less ability to grow and higher dependence on fragile systems which invariably for me would lead to more stress. Knowing I have enough water on hand and equipment and skills to procure more should the need arise is also a huge destresser.
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@thatguyoverthere @amiloradovsky @cell @sim @newt I was just talking with a guy at work the other day about something like this, he was saying that men need to be able to create something, and it made me think of Uncle Ted's 'power process'.
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@EssentialUtinsil @cell @sim @amiloradovsky @newt It's very much the same thing I think. The thing is when people don't build skills to create the drive doesn't go away. This idea that we need to "change the world" is absurd. I think if more people focused on changing themselves and their immediate surroundings with positive intentions the world would change on it's own tbh.
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@thatguyoverthere @amiloradovsky @cell @sim @newt "Human beings have a need (probably based in biology) for something that we will call the “power process.” This is closely related to the need for power (which is widely recognized) but is not quite the same thing. The power process has four elements. The three most clear-cut of these we call goal, effort and attainment of goal. (Everyone needs to have goals whose attainment requires effort, and needs to succeed in attaining at least some of his goals.) The fourth element is more difficult to define and may not be necessary for everyone."
I've spent basically my whole life in small rural towns or in the woods, I hate cities. I think these goals, being biological in nature, are most fulfilling when they are something that changes the physical world around you. Building something, growing something, hunting something, etc. These sorts of goals are very limited in an urban environment. They're even limited in suburban and even some rural environments due to the nature of our society (zoning laws, permitting, expense or unavailability of needed materials). So in the absence of these, we set goals of different sorts that don't give the same essential fulfilment in our souls.
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