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1. feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Nov-2023 04:14:27 JST feld
   Now that we have the videos of Israeli officials detailing their plan to empower Hamas and squash the PLO because [paraphrased] "nobody on the world stage will accept Hamas" and the PLO was being a nuisance by gaining support for their push to become an independent state I think we can put the pin in this one
   
   Everything here was carefully planned to give them justification for what we're seeing. If we're lucky we'll even get confirmation that the attack (which they were warned about) was allowed (why else were all those soldiers moved before it happened?) because they thought they'd get near universal support from Israeli citizens and the world.
   
   Wild stuff. Will be interesting to see how this all shakes out.
   • Token (coin@asimon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Nov-2023 04:14:26 JST Token

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     @feld >(which they were warned about)
     
     Huh? No we weren't. If we did. By whom?
   • feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Nov-2023 04:21:04 JST feld

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     @coin
     
     "We know that Egypt has warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen," Mr McCaul told reporters following a closed-door intelligence briefing on Wednesday for lawmakers about the Middle East crisis, according to AFP news agency.
     
     
     https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67082047
   • Token (coin@asimon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Nov-2023 04:21:04 JST Token

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     @feld Hindsight is always 20/20

     “It is my assumption - though I’m not on the inside - that there would be data breaking through that could have been interpreted differently and certainly would be with hindsight,” he said.

   • Token (coin@asimon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Nov-2023 04:22:37 JST Token

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     @adiz @feld Looks like it was over-reliance on high tech techniques of surveillance and we forgot to monitor low tech as well.
   • :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Nov-2023 04:22:38 JST :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶

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     @feld@bikeshed.party Isn't Mossad supposed to be one of the most capable intelligence agencies in the world too? 🤔 @coin@asimon.org

   • feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Nov-2023 04:25:08 JST feld

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     @coin Why'd they move all those soldiers to the West Bank when the warnings was for Gaza specifically though? That's what's so damn suspicious.
     
     another source
     
     https://archive.is/FW5sy
     
     
     edit: this one is more vague about there just being some kind of turmoil in Gaza Strip and not an attack but still ... what the fuck
   • Token (coin@asimon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Nov-2023 04:25:48 JST Token

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     @feld It was Simhat Tora on a Saturday, usually soldiers get a small break on holiday seasons to be with family. Guards are generally halved because of this.
   • feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Nov-2023 04:31:01 JST feld

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     @coin makes sense and that was likely a factor, but this article provides some additional context
     
     https://archive.is/8B6gW
   • Token (coin@asimon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Nov-2023 04:31:34 JST Token

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     @feld That could be an additional factor. Yes.