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1. Proud owner of a potato sack :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 05:54:01 JST Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:

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   @lebronjames75 @Zerglingman @jeff @Moon @birdulon downmixing to mono is information loss too you idiot. 99% people use shit "gamer headset" which has mono microphone input, if your "microphone" is an audiocard with multiple inputs you WANT to have separate audio devices for your mono inputs, or else software you use will have to downmix it for you in a way you don't want it to. How does mumble downmix? use left channel (channel 0), simple as. How does discord downmix? Probably downmix "stereo" which isn't stereo to begin with to mono and since the right channel is completely silent you only get 50% of volume. Let me reiterate - vast majority people use mono microphones, stereo microphones are extremely uncommon, even if phone has a stereo microphone it will only use one of them for actual calls, it won't downmix "stereo" or "3.0" into mono because it will lower the overall loudness and would waste energy doing calculations.
   
   You are arguing about your shitty niche windows-user-musician usecase working "better" in some software than it is in other.
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   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 05:53:59 JST Pawlicker

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     @hj @Zerglingman @jeff @Moon @lebronjames75 @birdulon
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   • opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 05:54:03 JST opal hart

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     @hj @Moon @Zerglingman @birdulon @jeff @lebronjames75 of course i could always just be asking for too much like usual
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   • opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 05:54:04 JST opal hart

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     @hj @Zerglingman @jeff @Moon @lebronjames75 @birdulon besides stating the obvious: mumble is optimised for voice-quality audio in the first place, where mono typically fits the bill
     
     i can see how both of these stereo-to-mono downmixing/channel-cutting can impact usability but i cant see why, in this context, we wouldnt just go with the one-size-fits-all solution assuming mumble never wants to support stereo capture/playback in the first place. like, surely it has the ability to detect stereo input and do something sane with that, right?
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   • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 05:55:08 JST Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:

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     @pomstan @Zerglingman @jeff @Moon @lebronjames75 @birdulon because windows drivers and because weakminded lebron doesn't want to "install 3 layers of software"
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   • pomstan (pomstan@xn--p1abe3d.xn--80asehdb)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 05:55:10 JST pomstan

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     @hj @Zerglingman @jeff @Moon @lebronjames75 @birdulon

     if your “microphone” is an audiocard with multiple inputs you WANT to have separate audio devices for your mono inputs

     why can’t it be just separate channels

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   • pomstan (pomstan@xn--p1abe3d.xn--80asehdb)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 05:55:31 JST pomstan

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     @hj @Zerglingman @jeff @Moon @lebronjames75 @birdulon

     because windows drivers

     i don’t really get it. if it’s a proper sound card and a proper mic, there should be an api to shit out multiple channels into the kernel so that it can pass them to userspace

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   • jaf (jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 05:56:35 JST jaf

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     @hj @Zerglingman @Moon @lebronjames75 @birdulon
     anime pfp dishing out the btfo
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