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@WandererUber @Some1Actually I'm trying to tell you that you are missing the forest for the trees. If you are trying to disprove things then you are on the back foot, playing defensively. Zero progress will be made doing that
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@WandererUber @Some1Actually I don't care what they say, they are liars and cheats. They wield the mantle of authority and "expertise" to fool lazy people who can't think on their own.
If you get your facts straight and discover the truth of the matter that may ease your concerns, but it will do very little to convince or rally others.
If you have concerns about the environment then first the governments of the Western world must be dealt with, then the polluters of Asia, Africa, and India can be dealt with.
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@Arkana @Some1Actually I won't argue against that, and I haven't suggested anything of the sort.
>doesn't matter if it's true or not
well, that's one way to look at it, I guess.
>fool lazy people who can't think on their own.
y-yeah... I'm asking about counterarguments for CO2 absorbing infrared... so how does this apply here at all? Most people are stupid. always has been. your point?
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@WandererUber @Some1Actually Regardless of if there is any actual truth to it, it does not matter as it's just being used as a method of propaganda.
In recent years they have moved away from CO2 and more towards Nitrogen as well. This is the reasoning they are using to ruin the Dutch farmers
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@Arkana @Some1Actually Nitrogen saturation is an actual problem. The plants and bacteria that were nitrogen bound aren't and they grow like weeds, sucking all the nutrients out of the ground. This destroys the soil.
>it's just being used as a method of propaganda
yep, and they do this with everything.
They steal something from you and then sell it back
(disrupt communities, sell dating apps)
(destroy farming, sell you "the solution" = stealing land from farmers, bugs, and lab meat)
>Regardless of if there is any actual truth to it, it does not matter as it's just being used as a method of propaganda.
They say the same thing about what we say about the jews. About what we say about nigger crime. About women. It matters to me.
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@WandererUber @Some1Actually More CO2 means more plantlife. I don't particularly care about the details, I just know that the "scientists" pushing global warming/climate alarmism are fools
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@Arkana @Some1Actually >More CO2 means more plantlife.
Think there is some difference with C3 and C4 plants...
>I don't particularly care about the details
a shame, really.
I think about the physics. And physicists were the first that considered the possibility actually. Way before some weirdo put a sensor on some hawaiian volcano.
Light hitting the earth converts some radiation to infrared. Thus, a balance exists between inflow and outflow of energy. More CO2 absorbs more infrared. Thus, the atmosphere will absorb more energy with higher CO2 levels. Haven't seen anyone argue against that yet, so I wanted to find out if I had a blindspot.
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@Arkana @Some1Actually hunger stones one is a bit stupid innit?
Says river levels and drought, that has nothing to do with sea levels.
also can you recommend me reading on the basics of climate change denial? Specifically how CO2 does NOT cause the earth to absorb more heat from the sun
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@Arkana @Some1Actually I'm not trying to disprove it. Why would I? I wanna know what deniers would say about it.
>Zero progress will be made doing that
progress towards what? If your hatred for solar energy is what makes you to seize power, don't let me stop you!