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1. blue (blueknightfrank@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 02:13:32 JST blue
   Faggot take. Japanese dub isn't good because your delusional assumption of weebs
   Japanese dub is because it's just is. This is just the natural production from the industry that doesn't hate it's culture and audience
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   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 02:13:32 JST Christi Junior

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     @blueknightfrank Japanese VAs are on the whole objectively better and far more dedicated. Any noteworthy character in an anime or Japanese vidya is almost guaranteed to be voiced by a highly accomplished VA with tons of previous voice work to his or her name. Meanwhile, in the West you got people like that fired Bayonetta bitch who had done NOTHING for like 10 years except voice that one character, and she still thought she was hot shit.
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   • jumpscare professional (handsomewinner@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 02:56:01 JST jumpscare professional

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     @blueknightfrank
     >JP
     >Larger VA pool
     >Original creators often have input on casting
     >VAs have greater incentive to do a good job because of passionate fans
     
     >EN
     >Smaller VA pool for dubs
     >Some faggot who doesn't like the work does the casting
     >"Fans" will eat almost anything up because they can't stand reading subtitles
     
     >Industry ladder pulling on new talent
     
     :holo_think:
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   • blue (blueknightfrank@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 03:07:56 JST blue

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     If jp dub is good because weebs don't understand it then why are voice Actors in japan get a celebrity status
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   • salty_apollyon (rlier23@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 03:08:06 JST salty_apollyon

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     @ChristiJunior @blueknightfrank
     jp VAs are not only talented but also dedicated to the point where they would even sing the ops of their animes
     and not only that but they are also profesional as fuck
     
     no jp VA ever called me a bigot
     
     
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvIEztK_gwQ
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   • VidMasterEon (vidmastereon@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:03:43 JST VidMasterEon

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     @rlier23 @ChristiJunior @blueknightfrank I would hate anime En VAs significantly less if there was any sort of professionalism that stopped them from acting like spoiled children on twitter
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   • blue (blueknightfrank@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:04:46 JST blue

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     God I hate en dub faggots
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   • :archlinux: :nyarch: :verified: (lewdthewides@hidamari.apartments)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:04:47 JST :archlinux: :nyarch: :verified:

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     @blueknightfrank lol @ publishers like Atlus who try to give English VAs the same star treatment as JP
     
     There's a 95% chance an English VA is a piece of shit on social media. Not people I care about knowing the names of
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   • VidMasterEon (vidmastereon@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:05:08 JST VidMasterEon

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     @blueknightfrank It is to the point where VA's will also be used to help sell the anime and be advertised alongside the character
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   • Berkeley Berkman (berkberkman@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:05:22 JST Berkeley Berkman

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     • Christi Junior
     @ChristiJunior @blueknightfrank The only tolerable English VAs already have a decent record of acting outside of animation (with some exceptions). Even then, there's a certain ego that those actors (and voice directors too) have and would limit their roles because it would bother them. It doesn't help that too many animation companies hire actors based on their name recognition alone (emphasis on alone) rather than their talent.
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   • SpookerZ (spooke@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:06:39 JST SpookerZ

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     • jumpscare professional
     @handsomewinner @blueknightfrank don't forget the fact that any VA that doesn't have the correct politics is blacklisted from the industry.
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   • VidMasterEon (vidmastereon@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:10:36 JST VidMasterEon

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     • jumpscare professional
     @handsomewinner @blueknightfrank people rightfully shit on VA's but this is a 2 tiered problem barring the nepostism and that is that the directors suck too
     Maybe dubs would receive better reception if the directors told the Va's to drop the "anime voice" and do another take when they arent trying to make another ghost stories knock off reddit dub like kaguya
     this criticism is never applied to western cartoon probably because the VA for Azula in Avatar doesnt need to chew the damn scenery in order to get the character across
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   • supersid (supersid333@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:11:24 JST supersid

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     @Vidmastereon @blueknightfrank @handsomewinner You're right, I'm definitely just yelling about the result of the problem and not the cause. I'm just grinding my own personal axe because I'm kinda sick of hearing Sasuke Uchiha's voice plastered over 90% of media that's even vaguely anime.
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   • VidMasterEon (vidmastereon@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:11:25 JST VidMasterEon

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     • jumpscare professional
     @supersid333 @handsomewinner @blueknightfrank That is primarily a nepotism issue
     I dont see only having one voice as a problem especially if they are able to do it very well but It does illustrate the vast gap in skill between the EN and JP VAs
     Iguchi yuuka does both Hibuscus and Saria in Arknights and chances are you would not know they are the same person
   • supersid (supersid333@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:11:26 JST supersid

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     • jumpscare professional
     @handsomewinner @blueknightfrank I'll be real it does get annoying when you see the same 4 or 5 actors in different roles with them having rather small voice ranges. Like I don't hate Yuri Lowenthall as a person, but he's fucking everywhere and it's hard not to recognize him because he does one voice.
   • VidMasterEon (vidmastereon@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:12:01 JST VidMasterEon

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     @blueknightfrank I see the new talking point went out
     This isnt exclusive to anime
     Watch the dub and original Italian of Life is Beautiful and tell me with a straight face that the guy doing a goofy accent for the protag is equivalent
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   • luithe (luithe@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:13:26 JST luithe

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     • VidMasterEon
     @Vidmastereon @supersid333 @blueknightfrank @handsomewinner case in point with garlic Jr and kenshiro being voiced by the same person yet sound completely different
   • VidMasterEon (vidmastereon@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:13:27 JST VidMasterEon

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     • jumpscare professional
     @supersid333 @blueknightfrank @handsomewinner Even a really skilled VA can probably only do 2 or 3 and there is a decent amount of cross contamination
     JP casting and the voice director probably chose Inori minase for Furina in Genshin because of how she did Carol in symphogear and told her to do that again
     Charles Martinet got the mario gig because he was the only guy who wasnt trying to do to the gruff bronx plumber voice
     so if you fix the nepotism issue and switch to open casting so you can let the people with different voices and takes on the character that issue will resolve itself
     
     If you were to do open casting you could sift through the guys doing knock off sasuke impressions and find like the one no name guy who has both the chops and unique take for your project
   • luithe (luithe@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:23:27 JST luithe

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     @blueknightfrank this is fucking painful to see gaslighting shit
     Anyone with ears can know which acting better just by listening to the performance alone
     This is why Spanish dubs of old ass anime and even now still blows out English by a long shot
   • luithe (luithe@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 04:43:14 JST luithe

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     @blueknightfrank I read a comment on that retarded video and said some shit like "embrace British voices like from soft did"
     Uh dumbass, do you not know the people acting in it have a level of prestige and works under their belt that isn't just va'ing in terrible ghost stories dub tier/knock off 2016 meme anime girl voice I've heard in those anime voice over porn videos and aren't on twitter blaming the japanese voice acting as le cringe to why nobody likes English voice acting and bad voice directions/"talents"
   • kumicota (kumicota@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 05:16:54 JST kumicota

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     @luithe @blueknightfrank
     "Old"(up to 200x)Brazilian was actually pretty good, where some cases was even better than some JP ones. The reason for that was hiring high quality VA's, hiring great bands for OP/ED and VA's being well paid.
     
     For example, Angra did the Brazilian opening of Saint Seya, now the guitarist of Angra is on Megadeth
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   • luithe (luithe@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 05:39:31 JST luithe

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     @kumicota @blueknightfrank Sam Hyde pretty much says what I agree with about these fucking en va's
     Theater kids so far up their assholes thinking they are hot shit before getting arrested as serial rapists etc.
   • blue (blueknightfrank@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 06:25:54 JST blue

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     @lewdthewides funny how jp va who usually put emphasis on their character more. Are more recognizable and loved by the fans then en dubs whose desperate to get their name out
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   • :awoo_tired: shotgun snuggler :clownpiece_smug: (poopernova@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 06:34:07 JST :awoo_tired: shotgun snuggler :clownpiece_smug:

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     @blueknightfrank god I hate EN dubs, when I learned Punishing gray raven has a full EN dub, I fucken dropped it, god I can't stand the faggot EN VAs
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   • Marakus (marakus@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 06:39:10 JST Marakus

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     @blueknightfrank Dubs are usually made by stupid faggots or lazy faggots. You need passion, and integrity and good voice actors, all at the same time, to produce something comparable to the original, which almost never happens. Sure exceptions can exist, but they are extremely rare.
     youtube.com/watch?v=aGA4LL0qkFk
     youtu.be/qVc_K8Syy2Q
   • Crit (sic_guy@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 06:39:10 JST Crit

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     @Marakus @blueknightfrank To be fair, I assume the VA Director for G Gundam's dub was like:
     
     "Look, I know its cheesy... lets just do it and then go drink."
     
     youtube.com/watch?v=hexQPDW7s5g&ab_channel=AlexTheSoutherner
   • supersid (supersid333@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 06:39:10 JST supersid

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     @SIC_Guy @Marakus @blueknightfrank Mark Gatha is a really cool guy. He took a couple dubbing gigs as a side job while doing medical school, and I vaguely remember him going on record saying that he kinda wishes he could go back and redub the first bit of G Gundam because he felt he really found his stride in the later bits. Now a days he's a knee surgeon, though his official staff page from the hospital he works out mentions that he did a couple dubs and even has a charming drawing of the characters he voiced as one of the pictures in it.
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   • :slap: (rehnsturm256@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 06:39:27 JST :slap:

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     @blueknightfrank yes, JP actors put more energy and passion into their voice acting. They become the characters.
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   • kumicota (kumicota@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 07:36:48 JST kumicota

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     @luithe @blueknightfrank
     
     Speaking of that, this is the bulma Brazilian VA, she posted this on Facebook "summary of my life with my fans".
     
     People who met her say that she's a cougar, so if you're a young boy it's easy to get groomed.
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   • luithe (luithe@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Oct-2023 08:00:45 JST luithe

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     @kumicota @blueknightfrank brb flying out to Brazil