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1. sim@shitposter.club's status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 04:56:39 JST sim

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   You can't win playing the cancel game because it can and will be used against you eventually.
   
   It sucks when people tell you to kill yourself but at that point they have either lost the argument or they are responding to you telling them to do something they don't want to do. Dialogue has been shut down at that point, probably some element of rejection too.
   
   Sometimes we do have to ask ourselves how our behaviour has led to the reactions that we get and how we can better respond next time if we want to minimise that. Sometimes it is them, sometimes it is us, and if we keep getting the same unpleasant experiences then it might be worth exploring what we're saying or doing to get those reactions. Even asking someone why they say what they do can be enlightening. I do find the concept of the filter to be interesting, because people that use it know that the poster will report them, block them or block their instance. That they will be rejected for it. They expect that. But if you don't do those things then that surprises them and could open dialogue up. But I suspect that this is going to get lost in translation even though this is the most common form from people on blocked instances.
   
   We could instead be asking ourselves why people feel the need to filter in this way, what are they responding to and how can we bridge the gap if our goal is more people interacting that hold different opinions? It doesn't just happen without a cause.
   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 05:00:21 JST sim

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     This is the concern. We do block some people on here but I hope that we are able to maintain a sense of responsibility and don't let it devolve further than it needs to be. Cancelling someone is isolating them, this is a serious punishment that should only be used as a last resort but too often people jump to using it first on fedi. Just think, we used to cast people out of the group as a punishment and to our brains this means certain death in the wilderness as it would have been harder to survive without a group. Therefore it requires more consideration, especially when this method is often used and a lot of people have come here after being cast out of the mainstream social media for various reasons or simply not feeling welcomed there.
   • william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 05:00:21 JST william.maggos

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     casting people out IRL meant and can mean they couldn't just start a new account and be less of a jerk. on social media, it's not a big ask to say don't tag people who won't appreciate a post.

   • ≠ (amerika@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 05:00:22 JST ≠

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     Once we accept that _some_ canceling is legitimate, then the method will be expanded to include many others.

     The same was true of "hate crimes." Originally designed to stop neo-nazis, these quickly devolved into busting people for off-color jokes on Twitter.