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1. e(Ag)le (silvereagle@furry.engineer)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 02:58:51 JST e(Ag)le

   Overnight, as a result of this thread, Tusky's community manager was forced to resign after having leveled some very justified (and honestly, very benign) criticism of TheBadSpace.

   I get flak for saying it, but there really is an ideological "cult" surrounding this project and the folks immediately running and supporting it. Any criticism of it, valid as it may be, is seen as bigotry, and since anything labeled "bigoted" is (often rightfully, but in this case, far too zealously) exterminate-on-sight in the Mastodon universe, it's far too easy to just designate the next target arbitrarily.

   Folks are uninstalling apps, defederating from each other, ripping thousands of connections apart, calling each other heinous horrible things, all because we have differing opinions about how best to keep the Fediverse a safe and inclusive place.

   I really think this is all getting out of hand.

   • Machismo repeated this.
   • e(Ag)le (silvereagle@furry.engineer)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 02:58:50 JST e(Ag)le

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     The responses in the original thread spell out an ultimatum that some people refuse to work with anyone who criticizes TheBadSpace in any way:

     I can hardly imagine someone from our team not supporting Ro

     I have been helping Ro and that’s how people feel about it then I don’t wanna work with them

     All for what? These "receipts" are SO benign: they say "innocent users are going to get caught in the drama" (they are, and have), and they boost someone saying blocklists are in general a case of good intentions poorly executed (they are).

     None of this is, in any fucking way, racism or bigotry. This is a wholly uncontroversial take.

     And yet, the outrage inside Tusky not only forced the community manager out, but made them issue this apology:

     I am extremely sorry to anyone hurt by my thoughtless actions.

     What thoughtless actions?! You were 100% right, and got yeeted for it.

     That's fucked, right?

     Machismo repeated this.
   • 🦊⛩️稲荷大神の狐⛩️🦊 (kitsuneofinari@packmates.org)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 03:00:05 JST 🦊⛩️稲荷大神の狐⛩️🦊

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     @silvereagle it does not matter if the project is good or bad. It's not about that at all. The project is about control and who controls the Fediverse.

     It's, divide and conquer. Or as the old Microsoft term, "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish."

     They set the rules, anyone or any instance that argues against it, or any instance that gives any form of slight against them, will have you and your instance added to their massive controlled Blocklist.

     It is using fear to control the smaller instances in the fediverse and they want smaller instances to fear and cow tow to them or face the Blocklist.

   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 03:00:17 JST Machismo

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     • 🦊⛩️稲荷大神の狐⛩️🦊
     @kitsuneofinari @silvereagle Self-solving problem tbh
   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 03:01:16 JST Machismo

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     @silvereagle Just say nigger and you'll be free.
   • jaf (jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 20:05:25 JST jaf

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     • 🦊⛩️稲荷大神の狐⛩️🦊
     • Gretchen Anderson
     @gretared @silvereagle @kitsuneofinari the fact that the only thing you bother to take issue with in the post is the one impure word is a perfect proof of my point.
     
     you dont care about safety you just want power and control.
     Machismo repeated this.
   • Gretchen Anderson (gretared@sfba.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 20:05:29 JST Gretchen Anderson

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     • jaf
     • 🦊⛩️稲荷大神の狐⛩️🦊

     @jeff @silvereagle @kitsuneofinari nice use of a slur, and purity as a reference point. Are we saying life is easier for POC because of political correctness because this whole thread smells of that logic.

   • jaf (jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 20:05:30 JST jaf

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     • 🦊⛩️稲荷大神の狐⛩️🦊
     @kitsuneofinari @silvereagle
     
     the purity test death spiral is induced by extreme and polarizing stances on charged topics with hardline enforcement based on decisions made from a reference frame with a culturally enforced confirmation bias mandating an explicit opposition to the concept of due process. there justice cannot be blind as all of the accused who are not pure enough are guilty until proven innocent and these retarded standards rip the social fabric of their community apart but they say that's okay because they say you just need to be stricter with enforcement and better at finding the impure.
   • jaf (jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 20:06:05 JST jaf

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     • jaf
     • 🦊⛩️稲荷大神の狐⛩️🦊
     • Gretchen Anderson
     @gretared @kitsuneofinari @silvereagle given the over arching context i cant say giving the amount of charity needed on your claim is wise as if you are a genuine believer that bad words harm bad enough to do all this and you ignored the entirety of that post minus the bad word you are either dishonest or too fargone to be granted any authority.