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  1. Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 01:44:54 JST Christi Junior Christi Junior
    >we didn’t set a fixed time period for development, which is usually decided before we kick off. To create something truly enjoyable, we decided to take our time and dedicate ample budget for development without having to worry about the production schedule.

    Insert joke about Game Freak and Modern Pokemon here.

    https://nintendoeverything.com/super-mario-bros-wonder-devs-on-mario-maker-2-motivation-and-new-engine/
    In conversation about a year ago from detroitriotcity.com permalink

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    1. Super Mario Bros. Wonder devs on Mario Maker 2 motivation and new engine
      from Brian
      Super Mario Bros. Wonder team discusses Super Mario Maker 2 motivation and using a brand new engine for the game.
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    • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 01:46:34 JST cool_boy_mew cool_boy_mew
      in reply to
      @ChristiJunior seriously, what the fuck is going on at the pokemon company. It seems to go generally against everything Nintendo does
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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    • Mona (mona@frennet.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 01:50:15 JST Mona Mona
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew

      @coolboymew@shitposter.club @ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com nintendo doesn't control them as much as other devs but given how badly pokemon has been shit on publicly i think they've had enough and expect all pokemon content to halt for a long while

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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    • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 01:51:01 JST Christi Junior Christi Junior
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      @coolboymew Nintendo doesn't fully control them. They obviously go along with and maybe even endorses the Pokeshit garbage game dev practices because the games are so damn successful, but they themselves sure as hell don't treat their flagship series (Mario, Zelda, hell, even Metroid) that way. People specifically blaming Nintendo for modern Pokemon being garbage are unbelievably full of shit.
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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    • ooignignoktoo (ooignignoktoo@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 01:54:02 JST ooignignoktoo ooignignoktoo
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      @coolboymew @ChristiJunior

      I pretend anything after gen 3 doesn't exist.

      I used to love Pokémon as a kid now that I'm older I find myself completely uninterested in the newer titles and the newer monsters feel like simpsons post season 11.

      I should sell my sealed steelbook of sun and moon i bought 8 years ago. I'm never gonna play it and I didn't care for the version I pirated much on my old 3ds.

      The franchise is fun for kids and I got some fond childhood memories around it but seeing 30+ year old manchildren on youtube COOMlecting cards and scalping merch meant for kids bugs me deeply.
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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    • Tsuki (tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 01:55:13 JST Tsuki Tsuki
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      Game needs to line up just in time with all the merch, anime TCG, etc. I don't think it's possible to make a decent game this way.
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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    • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 01:59:18 JST Christi Junior Christi Junior
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • Tsuki
      @Tsuki @coolboymew ESPECIALLY not when the core Pokemon team is still really small, and surprisingly incompetent.
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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    • Mona (mona@frennet.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 03:19:18 JST Mona Mona
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • VidMasterEon

      @Vidmastereon@varishangout.net @ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com @coolboymew@shitposter.club gamefreak without Nintendo or their resources would've folded before gen 1 came out

      they had a smash hit in the 90s its no longer the 90s time to clean house and start over

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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    • VidMasterEon (vidmastereon@varishangout.net)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 03:19:19 JST VidMasterEon VidMasterEon
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • Mona
      @mona @ChristiJunior @coolboymew yeah
      Nintendo doesnt own the pokemon ip outright and cannot exert their demand for a high quality product and QA oversight over the other shareholders demand for fast and periodical slop
      Add in the competency crisis and diversity hires and here is what you get
      In reality gamefreak were always a mediocre at best dev gifted a very marketable IP and the assistance of skilled individuals like iwata
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
    • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 03:24:11 JST Christi Junior Christi Junior
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • Mona
      • VidMasterEon
      @Vidmastereon @mona @coolboymew Mediocre is being generous, remember how utterly BROKEN Gen 1 is in terms of moves, mechanics, AI etc.
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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    • VidMasterEon (vidmastereon@varishangout.net)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 03:39:46 JST VidMasterEon VidMasterEon
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • Mona
      @mona @ChristiJunior @coolboymew i think the notion that it is franchise fatigue is wrong though
      Long running rpgs like disgaea final fantasy and dragon quest consisently turn out high quality iterations despite their age

      Pokemon is just now made to be junk food
      Play it thriw it away and get excited for next product
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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    • Mona (mona@frennet.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 03:39:47 JST Mona Mona
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • VidMasterEon

      @Vidmastereon@varishangout.net @ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com @coolboymew@shitposter.club yeah it wasn't big because the games were so good it was big because of the show because of the cards and it just became a thing with kids of that time i was one of them i still like pokemon

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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    • VidMasterEon (vidmastereon@varishangout.net)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 03:39:48 JST VidMasterEon VidMasterEon
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • Mona
      @mona @ChristiJunior @coolboymew red and blue were buggy unremarkable rpgs outclassed by its contempories of the time
      The aforementioned aspects and its availability on handhelds made it a hit when it would otherwise be a dud
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
    • luithe (luithe@varishangout.net)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 03:56:32 JST luithe luithe
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • Mona
      • VidMasterEon
      @mona @ChristiJunior @coolboymew @Vidmastereon dragon quest monsters is literally on there and better than Pokemon
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
    • luithe (luithe@varishangout.net)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 03:58:46 JST luithe luithe
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • luithe
      • Mona
      • VidMasterEon
      @mona @ChristiJunior @Vidmastereon @coolboymew NVM it's a Gbc game, then again the Gbc came out 3 years later
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
    • luithe (luithe@varishangout.net)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 04:03:43 JST luithe luithe
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • luithe
      • Mona
      • VidMasterEon
      @ChristiJunior @Vidmastereon @coolboymew @mona but you get my point, pokemon if released outside the windows of those obscure japanese monster games came first, or DQ monsters, pokemon would be another japanese obscure title left in the 90's
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
    • luithe (luithe@varishangout.net)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 04:10:23 JST luithe luithe
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • Mona
      • VidMasterEon
      @Vidmastereon @mona @ChristiJunior @coolboymew well get ready for DQ to start die in the gutter like a dog pathetically once 12 hits and and knowing how much the "ethics department" has on cuck enix
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
    • Arkana (arkana@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 04:18:23 JST Arkana Arkana
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • Mona
      • VidMasterEon
      @Vidmastereon @mona @ChristiJunior @coolboymew Pokemon Gen 1 was very innovative, especially in regards to player trading and battling. Eventually they moved away from the exploration and social elements and just focused on the surface level elements. I suggest watching the GCCX interview with Tajiri

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwSSWGxgCwM
      In conversation about a year ago permalink

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      1. Satoshi Tajiri's GCCX interview (2004, full)
        from Manny Fest
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    • Dragon Zero (william_the_dragonborn@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 05:19:41 JST Dragon Zero Dragon Zero
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • Mona
      • DrScarGazer
      • VidMasterEon
      @mona @DrScarGazer @ChristiJunior @coolboymew @Vidmastereon This, I cannot deny that the mmo on steam did well.
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
    • DrScarGazer (drscargazer@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 05:19:42 JST DrScarGazer DrScarGazer
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • Mona
      • VidMasterEon
      @Vidmastereon @ChristiJunior @mona @coolboymew >Final Fantasy
      >consistent high quality
      In conversation about a year ago permalink
    • Mona (mona@frennet.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 05:19:42 JST Mona Mona
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • DrScarGazer
      • VidMasterEon

      @DrScarGazer@poa.st @Vidmastereon@varishangout.net @ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com @coolboymew@shitposter.club to be fair for final fantasy they've released a shit of different RPGs on top of their turn based JRPGs including a very successful mmo

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
    • Mona (mona@frennet.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 05:20:04 JST Mona Mona
      in reply to
      • cool_boy_mew
      • Dragon Zero
      • DrScarGazer
      • VidMasterEon

      @William_The_Dragonborn@poa.st @DrScarGazer@poa.st @ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com @coolboymew@shitposter.club @Vidmastereon@varishangout.net i played the shit out of that mmo

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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