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ooignignoktoo (ooignignoktoo@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:01:31 JST ooignignoktoo
@dassauerkraut @Tadano @coolboymew

Personally I hate the idea of them killing off physical media. If you're gonna sell a digital only console so be it but atleast give the end user an add-on like a USB connectable disc drive that can read the games so people can play their old physical copies on modern systems. I mean the xbox one doesn't even read the discs.It just detects the license and downloads a digital copy for 360 and original xbox games.

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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:02:40 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @ooignignoktoo @Tadano @dassauerkraut My problem is with ownership. There's literally 0 solutions unless it becomes entirely DRM free or if the EU or something strongarm companies to make their shit DRM free once the console effectively stops getting releases
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:34:42 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @berkberkman @Tadano @ooignignoktoo @dassauerkraut The thing is that disc, plastic, etc cost money, and the store takes a cut from that. Digital cuts into all of this and give them complete control over then product. Does that mean you get discounts because they don't have to spend anything else? Lmao no, they're still gonna sell it full price for full profits
  
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- Berkeley Berkman (berkberkman@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:34:43 JST Berkeley Berkman
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  @ooignignoktoo @Tadano @coolboymew @dassauerkraut A constant Internet connection is really the source of digital games becoming the norm. Owning your physical games (and copies) while having lousy data speeds (like where I live) is just one of several reasons why the issue still persists to this day. A digital game code's worthless without a decent connection via Wi-Fi or Ethernet (or mobile data). A Blu-ray disc with the game data already installed seems to be too expensive for game publishers for some reason.
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- WhiteExodite (bleedingphoenix@wolfgirl.bar)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:36:40 JST WhiteExodite
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  @berkberkman @Tadano @coolboymew @ooignignoktoo @dassauerkraut
  >stick with the 360
  always will, never giving this box up
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- ooignignoktoo (ooignignoktoo@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:43:34 JST ooignignoktoo
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  Outside of the faulty hardware I feel like the xbox 360 / ps3 / wii generation was the swan song of the golden era of gaming.
  
  If the ps2 / gamecube / xbox had HD out of the box I'd say that would be the best generation. I liked that era because there was a lot of experimental things going on and the suits didn't totally pozz up the industry yet.
  
  Part of the reason why I absolutely loved the Dreamcast for it's time. I stil llike the Dreamcast but the physical hardware is becoming redundant now that emulation for it is really good now.
  
  I got a heavily modded DC and I was tempted to sell it.
  
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- WhiteExodite (bleedingphoenix@wolfgirl.bar)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:45:06 JST WhiteExodite
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  @ooignignoktoo @Tadano @berkberkman @coolboymew @dassauerkraut we've been over this a lot around here, and yeah it was the spike before the fall. xbox one was when things started to fall and it's only accelerated downhill. the 360's still a very good investment if you want some quality games, especially since most of them go for so low now (i got Dead Space 1 & 2 for $10 each)
  https://invidious.varishangout.net/watch?v=w5u8jyPIrIY
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    The pace of the most influential triple-A releases during the busiest Xbox 360 years (2006-2011). Based on a median of sales, reception, nominations, awards. Excluded categories: digital-only, DLC, late 6th-gen ports, DC licensed. All menus have been recorded on their original Xbox 360 version for this video. Dates source: mobygames.com Sales metric: vgchartz.com Reception metric: metacritic.com Awards & nominations metrics: Golden Joystick Awards Spike Video Game Awards British Academy Games Awards Annual Interactive Achievement Awards Game Developers Choice Awards
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- Berkeley Berkman (berkberkman@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:45:30 JST Berkeley Berkman
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  @coolboymew @Tadano @ooignignoktoo @dassauerkraut I sometimes wonder if that cost has significantly risen for companies that made their own proprietary game cartridges/discs/etc. I'm surprised that Sony hasn't made their own proprietary hardware (thankfully) for distributing their PS5 games since they've been pushing against anti-piracy measures for years by making their own formats in the past (the PSP's UMD, PS Vita cartridges). Maybe it's a huge loss for them overall.
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:47:15 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @berkberkman @Tadano @ooignignoktoo @dassauerkraut it's always been a loss of some kind, but console gaming became extra cancer when people had to deal with PS3 disc install (is it even still a thing) that apparently took fucking forever and day 1 updates that are more than a few GBs
  
  but it's either this, or less any sort of ownership at all and that's unacceptable
  
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- ooignignoktoo (ooignignoktoo@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:48:57 JST ooignignoktoo
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  I mean for Sony the R&D is mostly for them to create their own format and they try to sell it to other companies to recoup their losses. The problem is The vita was a proprietary format and UMD was niche and only the PSP adopted it and we already had a similar format with the mini discs. I remember there was talks of making UMD players but it didn't take off because it was an inferior format to DVD.
  
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- Why (Bloomed & Unhanced) (why@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:51:27 JST Why (Bloomed & Unhanced)
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  @coolboymew @berkberkman @Tadano @dassauerkraut @ooignignoktoo ps3 disc install wasnt universal, but it was slow due to the shit tier blu ray drive. nowadays its practically mandatory for every disc. theres always a big day one update you have to download as well, sometimes the disc only has a few kb of a license on it and the whole game is downloaded online.
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:51:59 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @why @Tadano @berkberkman @dassauerkraut @ooignignoktoo that's pretty fucking terrible
  
  I know for a lot of switch games, they're usually at least playable day 1 without even the patch
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:52:30 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @why @Tadano @berkberkman @dassauerkraut @ooignignoktoo or a lot of the time, they actually come complete on cart
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:54:16 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @animeirl @berkberkman @Tadano @ooignignoktoo @dassauerkraut they're usually marked on the box so you can avoid them
  
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- anemone (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 03:54:17 JST anemone
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  Apparently switch cards are expensive enough some companies require downloads and don’t include the whole game on the card so they can use a smaller, cheaper one
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:08:08 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @dassauerkraut @Tadano @berkberkman @ooignignoktoo @why thankfully, the biggest offenders are AAA games, that nobody should play
  
  The other massive day 1 patches are also usually online component which are being worked on until the launch. There's not that much point to have a fully updated online component on disc if there's gonna be more downloads later
  
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- dassauerkraut (dassauerkraut@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:08:09 JST dassauerkraut
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  To process a whole blu-ray just just for a license key is peak absurdity. Perhaps if they quit trying to sell unoptimized movies they could just put the whole damned game on 1 maybe 2 discs and hand it out properly. They'd probably save as well not having to maintain download servers for every last title they hold.
  
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- Why (Bloomed & Unhanced) (why@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:08:16 JST Why (Bloomed & Unhanced)
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  @dassauerkraut @Tadano @berkberkman @coolboymew @ooignignoktoo ff7 remake part 2 is gonna have 2 discs, its an absolute gimmick so i wonder how itll work (install the 2nd a la gta v on 360? insert disc 2 moment?)
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:11:44 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @berkberkman @coolboymew @Tadano @ooignignoktoo @dassauerkraut Sony is a little pragmatic compared to the rest, and I’d bet there’s some inter-service feud that kept telling them that games would be mostly online “any day now!” since 2005.
  Not to mention they own their own disc fabs, so that helps cut costs even more.
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:12:21 JST Pawlicker
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  @coolboymew @Tadano @berkberkman @ooignignoktoo @why @dassauerkraut on the ps4/5 you can install the patch files offline (not on the Xbox consoles though post 360)
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:12:46 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @PurpCat @Tadano @berkberkman @ooignignoktoo @why @dassauerkraut patches and co being not DRM'd would really help
  
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- dassauerkraut (dassauerkraut@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:13:55 JST dassauerkraut
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  Ha! Lol! Lmao! Usually online component my ass. Bought BDL3 (worst fucking game purchase ever) and took to to friends out of town where we had no internet. Game was buggy as hell and unplayable in many regards. Found out after the weekend there was a launch day update we couldn't get. ABSOLUTE SHIT. We went back to playing BDL2 for the whole weekend.
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:14:46 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @dassauerkraut @Tadano @berkberkman @ooignignoktoo @why yeah, AAA game
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:18:54 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @dassauerkraut @Tadano @berkberkman @ooignignoktoo @why I'm aware, I specifically isolated AAA games in my post you responded to because I know damn well they always ship broken
  
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- dassauerkraut (dassauerkraut@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:18:55 JST dassauerkraut
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  Yes but goes to show, it ain't just online components that rush fixes for. Too many games aren't playable out of the box.
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:19:02 JST Pawlicker
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  @coolboymew @Tadano @berkberkman @ooignignoktoo @why @dassauerkraut keep in mind there are ps4 mods so you can in fact do this and chances are when servers get shut down that platform will be the one to have private servers too.
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:24:23 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @why @Tadano @berkberkman @dassauerkraut @ooignignoktoo yeah, but generally less. Unless you have a shitty pub like NISA
  
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- Why (Bloomed & Unhanced) (why@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:24:24 JST Why (Bloomed & Unhanced)
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  @coolboymew @dassauerkraut @Tadano @berkberkman @ooignignoktoo AA games are vulnerable too. most low budget games are digital first, and physical releases are a special later thing. games just arent physical anymore.
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:27:52 JST Pawlicker
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  @animeirl @Tadano @berkberkman @coolboymew @ooignignoktoo @dassauerkraut apparently the series x uses 50gb discs and the ps5 100gb discs
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:28:31 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @PurpCat @Tadano @berkberkman @animeirl @ooignignoktoo @dassauerkraut The Switch cards being too small, a lot of it is for AAA games that you should be playing somewhere else anyways
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 04:29:20 JST Pawlicker
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  @coolboymew @Tadano @berkberkman @animeirl @ooignignoktoo @dassauerkraut yeah flash memory costs more than fabbing a disc does.
  
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- Tadano ❄️🎅 (tadano@amala.schwartzwelt.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 05:57:43 JST Tadano ❄️🎅
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  @PurpCat @berkberkman @animeirl @coolboymew @ooignignoktoo @dassauerkraut I would assume the cost gap has shrunk significantly though. Even five years ago you couldn't get a 1TB NVME drive for less than 100 and as of yesterday I got a high quality Samsung 1TB for 70 CAD. Would it not be even cheaper for smaller-sized chips then?
  
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- ooignignoktoo (ooignignoktoo@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 06:15:27 JST ooignignoktoo
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  Prices have gone down a lot since I bought my 1tb nvme. I paid nearly $150 for a 1tb 970 evo samsung in 2020 and now they're about $80-100 in 2023 and that's accounting for inflation.
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 06:16:47 JST Pawlicker
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  @ooignignoktoo @Tadano @berkberkman @animeirl @coolboymew @dassauerkraut micro center has their brand for $40
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 06:18:18 JST Pawlicker
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  @Tadano @berkberkman @animeirl @coolboymew @ooignignoktoo @dassauerkraut they're custom chips it seems
  https://switchbrew.org/w/index.php?title=Cartridge
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- ooignignoktoo (ooignignoktoo@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 06:29:29 JST ooignignoktoo
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  @PurpCat @Tadano @berkberkman @animeirl @coolboymew @dassauerkraut for $40 it's probably a gen 3 nvme which is totally fine for standard desktop application / use. If you're planning on putting it in a PS5 or something it won't work since they require gen 4 nvmes drives.
  
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- Ace Ice (ace66062@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 10:00:21 JST Ace Ice
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  @dassauerkraut @coolboymew @Tadano @berkberkman @ooignignoktoo @why if you're talking about borderlands then yeah its gearbox what did you expect
  
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- dassauerkraut (dassauerkraut@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 11:49:11 JST dassauerkraut
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  @Ace66062 @Tadano @berkberkman @coolboymew @ooignignoktoo @why BDL1&2 were the only other titles I think I'd played from gearbox so it was a serious let down for me.
  
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- ooignignoktoo (ooignignoktoo@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 11:49:11 JST ooignignoktoo
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  I remember buying Borderlands 2 on Steam and then finding out 2 character classes were locked out from the get go and they're like oh you have to buy the season pass so I bought the pass only to find out after there was a $10 paywall for each class. The game was also generic and boring to play solo and everyone's like "but you need friends for it to be fun" that arguement could be used for any game.
  
  Borderlands 2 legit reminded me why I hate season passes.The cel shaded art style of the game is cool but they went with that art style but the rest of the game felt like generic uninspired garbage and as a result I had no interest in playing any of the sequels
  
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- ooignignoktoo (ooignignoktoo@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 11:59:06 JST ooignignoktoo
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  Its meant to be a crude humor shooter for the most part
  
  I learned my lesson trust gearbox with this genre after what they did with Duke Nukem Forever >_<
  
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- dassauerkraut (dassauerkraut@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 11:59:07 JST dassauerkraut
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  Its meant to be a crude humor shooter for the most part, and yeah its really built around having a party of friends playing together. I had it on console first and got all the extra content in one extra disc for I think $30 when that released in gamestop.
  When I got it on steam finally it was after the game had been out for years and got everything on sale for super cheap.
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 11:59:25 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @ooignignoktoo @dassauerkraut @Ace66062 @Tadano @berkberkman @why Play Duke Nukem 1 and 2 on dos instead
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 12:00:14 JST cool_boy_mew
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- dassauerkraut (dassauerkraut@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 12:00:32 JST dassauerkraut
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  I never got to Duke Nukem Forever actually, somehow let it pass me. How badly did they do the man?
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 12:00:58 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @dassauerkraut @Tadano @berkberkman @ooignignoktoo @why @Ace66062 the game sucks. Just watch that youtube fps guy review and playthrough of it
  
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- ooignignoktoo (ooignignoktoo@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 12:03:53 JST ooignignoktoo
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  The game itself is atleast playable but the problem with duke nukem forever was it is super generic to the point it's nauseating to play and there's other shooters that have done everything it tries to achieve and better.
  
  The original PC release allowed you to carry 2 weapons max but they patched it to 4 after people complained. It was plagued with obnoxious driving sections like Half Life 2 had ( the driving sections were the weakest part of that game ).
  
  The Dr. Who Cloned me DLC expansion was solid but all they had to do was make a modern Duke Nukem 3D and it would've been great. Luciliy there's someone trying to bring back the 2001 game from the leaked code.
  
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- Tadano ❄️🎅 (tadano@amala.schwartzwelt.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 13:10:51 JST Tadano ❄️🎅
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  @ooignignoktoo @berkberkman @coolboymew @why @Ace66062 @dassauerkraut Not only is there DNF2001 but people are unfucking the Gearbox Duke Nukem Forever too
  
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- Ace Ice (ace66062@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 07:04:08 JST Ace Ice
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  @Tadano @berkberkman @coolboymew @ooignignoktoo @why @dassauerkraut its funny how much more of an actual game the 2001 DNF is even though its still really flawed
  
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