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1. Sprate (sprate@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 09:22:31 JST Sprate

   • Rusty Crab
   That Sprate Header guy is so awesome and cool
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 09:22:30 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • Rusty Crab
     @Sprate @RustyCrab :dude_surprised:
   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 12:54:40 JST Jeff Cliff

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     • Pawlicker
     I'm not trying to make pawoo look good. It has a reputation and it's deserved to a large extent. It is what it is
     
     my problem is that there's now 700,000+ people who are suddenly getting their social life yanked from under them
     
     people would *freak* if their facebook accounts were just rug pulled en masse, this is no different only smaller in scale
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     Machismo repeated this.
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 12:54:41 JST Pawlicker

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     @RustyCrab @dcc @Sprate speaking of that another pawoo orbiter weighs in
     https://shitposter.club/objects/c159489c-6437-4636-9462-e567be411e53
   • Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 12:54:41 JST Rusty Crab

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     @PurpCat @Sprate @dcc
     >many of them active for things not related to cp
     that is not how I would phrase that to make the site look good :abyss:
   • Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 12:54:42 JST Rusty Crab

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     • Pawlicker
     @dcc @Sprate onky missing @PurpCat for the kool kids klub
   • Sprate (sprate@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 13:18:04 JST Sprate

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     • Jeff Cliff
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     • Rusty Crab
     • Pawlicker
     I do get the pro-federation position, but if that means you're bringing a bunch of people onto an instance with THAT much CSAM, you'd probably be better off waiting for an alternative choice to become viable.
   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 13:18:05 JST Jeff Cliff

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     sure that's one alternative outcome if they weren't willing to manage it properly
     
     personally my priority is moving people away from twitter onto alternative platforms such as pawoo. See https://twitter.com/RippleStream/status/1712327373016756319
   • Sprate (sprate@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 13:18:06 JST Sprate

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     • Jeff Cliff
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     • Rusty Crab
     • Pawlicker
     Assuming that those 700K+ users had no involvement in in any of the CSAM stuff, would it not be preferable that those 700K+ people get off the instance that wasn't doing a sufficient job removing CSAM?
   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 13:18:30 JST Jeff Cliff

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     >, you'd probably be better off waiting for an alternative choice to become viable.
     
     Dude, I am not waiting for 'viable'. I have been telling people to move to the fediverse for over a decade now (ie back before it was called the fediverse) - 'viable' needs people to move now, not wait for everyone in their life to leave twitter/facebook, or it will never happen, and the SJWs will have full social and mind control over billions of people, forever
   • marlin (marlin@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 13:28:40 JST marlin

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     @jeffcliff @RustyCrab @dcc @PurpCat @Sprate That type of help isn’t readily available. Alex and graf have tried to integrate automated CSAM detection into their instances to no avail.

   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 13:28:40 JST Pawlicker

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     • Rusty Crab
     @marlin @dcc @RustyCrab @Sprate @jeffcliff Even if you have those, the problem is as the size of your service and database increases, it exponentially becomes harder.
     
     This has been documented happening to Bing, where Microsoft founded the PhotoDNA database:
     https://archive.ph/MgvDg
     
     And Instagram:
     https://archive.ph/UKGXJ
     
     I'm not even getting into stuff like other AI attempts to curb it or Facebook's infamous moderation centers where wagies are forced to look at CSAM/CP, gore/murder/death videos, and animal abuse videos daily (along with "conspiracy theories").
     
     The other problem these sites are known to have as well that Pawoo suffers from, is the "language barrier" issue that makes a social media platform that censors the English version hard a wild west outside of it since the owners don't know what Russian keywords pedophiles use and the like.
     
     Now imagine an instance that big, and with a non-English language, is being flooded with junk reports from Mastodongers.
     
     Basically; Pawoo is a case study on what happens when your fedi instance gets too big to maintain.
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   • Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 13:28:41 JST Rusty Crab

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     • Pawlicker
     @jeffcliff @dcc @PurpCat @Sprate I know it's just a :abyss: way to phrase it.
     At the same time... they HAD to have known though. That's not the kind of thing you just casually don't hear about on your own instance.
   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 13:28:41 JST Jeff Cliff

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     • Rusty Crab
     • Pawlicker
     for sure
     they needed help and they did a shit job at seeking it out
   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 13:40:37 JST Machismo

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     • † top dog :pedomustdie:
     • Rusty Crab
     • Pawlicker
     @RustyCrab @dcc @Sprate @PurpCat @jeffcliff He knows. He claims he doesn't have a good solution for it. Go suggest him some: @Sujiyan