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1. Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead: (giganova8@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 02:45:06 JST Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:
   Is it just me, or does anyone else feel like nobody ever really does anything anymore? It's kind of hard to explain the feeling, but it feels like there's never anything made or shared just for the sake of it anymore, everybody is constantly looking to get something out of it, usually for as little effort as possible. Money usually, but you also see instances where free projects get shuttered cause the owners weren't getting enough clout or whatever they were looking for. :awoo_think:
   
   Not even sure it's necessarily a bad thing, it just seems like you can't find anything that isn't slathered with e-begging or paywalls of some kind anymore, and it feels odd given that AFAIK most of the costs of hosting online things in general have gone down over the years. :senko_hmmmm:
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   • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead: (giganova8@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 02:45:05 JST Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:

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     Of course, maybe I'm just looking in all the wrong places, or this just seems more prevalent than it actually is now that I've noticed it. :akko_shrug:
     
     At the end of the day, I guess it doesn't really matter as long as things still get made and I can access them in some way. Who knows anymore, things seem to change wildly and without warning these days. It's too damn hard to keep up. :awoo_tired:
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   • 獣耳会社ｗａｎ (wan@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 02:53:55 JST 獣耳会社ｗａｎ

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     @Giganova8 There are lots of factors, but a big one is the rise and normalization of tipping services like Ko-fi and "creator" subscription services like Patreon/SubscribeStar. With these making it possible to start the e-begging from very small scales (which stop seeming so small once you start to account for exchange rates, see any modern scanlation credits page produced by overconfident ESLs) with little downside, everyone sees others doing it and feels like a sucker if they're the only ones not.
     
     That plus decline of material circumstances, generational exposure to muh hustle culture (which insists that any activity that isn't performatively monetizable is to be purged from one's life), breakdown of the longer/slower/more "intimate" forms of Internet interaction which would provide the feedback and nonmaterial rewards that grows a scene, the list goes on...
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   • Xeraser 🇮🇹 | 🇷🇺 (xeraser@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 03:56:25 JST Xeraser 🇮🇹 | 🇷🇺

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     @wan @Giganova8 >be me
     >musician
     >spend all my disposable income on ROMplers
     >never actually finish a single track
     >never make an album
     >never (can't) monetize my hobby
     feels good
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   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 06:43:30 JST Pawlicker

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     @DemonSixOne @Giganova8 @wan To add onto this, I should talk about what my last job was like.
     
     So for context, it was a group of like 6-10 on each shift. I was on one shift and moved to another after disputes with a coworker accusing me of stuff.
     
     What I saw on both shifts was this: the job had mentally worn them out. There was a dreadful feeling, from both the boss from hell to the lack of documentation at work (we were debugging failed servers with no documentation, just notes each coworker had in Office 365), and more people seemed interested in doing one of two things.
     
     Either work time was used to consoom media or to study certs/apply for colleges/uni (if the wagie boss didn't set up the web filter properly, I was unfortunately having a working web filter but coworkers didn't) . No joke. The whole feeling of this job was that it was so bad you couldn't even distract yourself from it, you wanted out of it as fast as possible. It was common to use Microsoft Teams as coworker Discord.
     
     Other coworkers were taking BANTS to the extreme, and some nonwhite coworkers were using work time to browse shitcoin prices seeing if they could totally get rich investing on some shitcoin nobody has heard of, playing the markets like a problem gambler would scratch offs back in the day or "DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE MEGA MILLIONS".
     
     One thing I noticed is that coworkers had no passion projects or severe apathy for it. Those are for kids in their mindset even if they didn't say it because it's clear they were burnt out and blackpilled, or simply didn't give a shit.
     
     And then I quit my job after having no home life and I realized too the other reason nobody has any, when you grow up with aggressive authoritarian parents who do a good job at snuffing out any passion with berating or medication, it's easy to fall into that trap. So many people I meet online seem to bounce between college that the parents won't shut up about (which they have no interest in), and wagecages to survive and dealing with berating from parents in between.
     
     There's an entire lost generation and hustle culture seems enticing to someone who has never had passion.
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     @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 Not just the younger generation, but third worlders too.
     
     Third worlders especially love this hustle culture. That's exactly who I saw getting in on Crypto right after every other wagie realized it's a dead end. I saw my minority boss browsing crypto sites during work and joining Discords for it.
   • Radians (demonsixone@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 06:43:32 JST Radians

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     @wan @Giganova8 Hustle culture is a big one with the younger generations. Quite a few creative people that would otherwise be fostering hobbies and such are tapping into gig economy "side hustles" in order to get by in life.
   • Meemoo (meemoo@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 06:49:20 JST Meemoo

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     @PurpCat @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 honestly this
     
     The boomers have fucked us all by not investing in their young like their predecessors did and instead hiring foreigners for cheaper wages and doing everything they can to secure their pensions which only benefits them.
     
     There's an infinite amount of stories about parents berating and kicking out their kids for daring to chase their dreams.
     You're actively shamed and punished for doing anything that isn't going to college or working on mundane office jobs.
     Just think of how many kids decide to live out on their own because they can't stand being with their parents.
     The problems in the current society are deeply rooted in how the previous generation has raised us.
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   • luithe (luithe@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:49:06 JST luithe

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     @Meemoo @PurpCat @DemonSixOne @Giganova8 @wan "I have a hobby.
     Can you give me money for it?
     Because I love money.
     Money? I'll take it
     Pregnancy? Can we monetize it for money?
     That doesn't look like money, I don't want that.
     But if you have money I'll take it.... :jew: "
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 09:12:00 JST Pawlicker

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     @luithe @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 @Meemoo the most blatant shit is when you get into console scenes and you see clowns like the GDEMU guy having a chimpout because of the chinese cloning his stuff.
     
     He doesn't care about any community or keeping these going, only about getting money.
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   • luithe (luithe@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 09:13:14 JST luithe

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     @PurpCat @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 @Meemoo hustle culture is literally being a lite Jew for money and then be miserable later in life because of the "I missed out my youth working boo hoo"
   • luithe (luithe@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 09:24:19 JST luithe

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     @PurpCat @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 @Meemoo yeah but the bait is the bullshit "every second counts do no hours to rest or sleep and grind! Or you'll end up in the streets and wake up at 3am despite not working in blue collar jobs or a farming job" that people (mainly niggers) believe and then burn themselves out horribly
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 09:24:20 JST Pawlicker

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     @luithe @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 @Meemoo I can explain it simpler.
     
     Hustle culture is doing everything to avoid working a McDonald's job or Amazon Warehouse job, or to get your boomer ass parents to shut up for 5 minutes about trying to find a real job.
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 09:26:37 JST Pawlicker

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     @luithe @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 @Meemoo I have a feeling the YouTube shills of that sound a lot like the Andrew Tate tier PUAs that are literally only good for zoombombing.
     
     https://youtu.be/LYLQ7eOlhoI
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   • luithe (luithe@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 09:27:39 JST luithe

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     @PurpCat @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 @Meemoo ah yes and do not forget the classic "gamble on the stock market day trading losing thousands per day gambling your money for 3k"
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     @luithe @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 @Meemoo this is unironically what my wagie boss was doing during company time at my last job instead of his damn job and the other one was yelling at his coworkers while studying comptia certs :blobcatjoy:
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   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 09:34:14 JST Pawlicker

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     @luithe @DemonSixOne @Giganova8 @Meemoo @wan see when I think of hustle culture I can't get the image out of my head of some wagecuck who thinks he's going to be big by twitch streaming or gambling on the stock market, or some no name furry porn artist who wants to do that instead of working at mcdonalds
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   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Oct-2023 02:45:26 JST Pawlicker

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     @iska @Giganova8 @Meemoo @DemonSixOne @luithe @wan the furry online calling you a techbro:
   • Iska (iska@catposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Oct-2023 02:45:29 JST Iska

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     @PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @Giganova8@varishangout.net @Meemoo@varishangout.net @DemonSixOne@poa.st @luithe@varishangout.net @wan@poa.st I remember in my early fedi days some furry would rather blame being a russian than not argue about me using monero and not being ashamed of it, then blocked me and probably posted about me being a techbro.
     he was from the musk wave ofc

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     @iska @Giganova8 @Meemoo @DemonSixOne @luithe @wan >I wonder how many Russian fags fell into poverty when the sanctions hit just because of that.
     
     A lot were struggling to use shit like crypto even or some weird payment services. I have no idea what they did in the end as I'm disconnected from the furry scene these days, but it was funny seeing the crypto bad furry techbros have to justify it.
   • Iska (iska@catposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Oct-2023 02:45:34 JST Iska

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     @PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @luithe@varishangout.net @DemonSixOne@poa.st @Giganova8@varishangout.net @Meemoo@varishangout.net @wan@poa.st ...or some no nyame furry porn artist who wants to do that instead of working at mcdonyaldsremember that are0h gets way more from patreon gibs than the average Russian from his 9-5 job.
     I wonder how many Russian fags fell into poverty when the sanctions hit just because of that.

   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Oct-2023 02:46:16 JST 

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     @PurpCat @iska @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 @Meemoo @luithe
     the_kernel_was_made_by_techbros…
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     @m0xEE @DemonSixOne @Giganova8 @Meemoo @iska @luithe @wan fuck they cost too much FUCK
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Oct-2023 02:59:22 JST Pawlicker

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     @m0xEE @iska @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 @Meemoo @luithe a kind of badass camera I can't afford or find yet
   • m0xEE (m0xee@breloma.m0xee.net)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Oct-2023 02:59:23 JST m0xEE

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     @PurpCat
     What is panromantic and how does it work together with monogamous? :marseythinkorino:
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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Oct-2023 03:00:09 JST 

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     @PurpCat @m0xEE @iska @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 @Meemoo @luithe Just like with your Japanese computers, you'd probably have better luck finding stuff you need on local marketplaces (Avito) and forwarding the package.
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     @mint @m0xEE @iska @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 @Meemoo @luithe yeah no joke eBay turned to shit because they banned all the RU sellers (a good chunk) and the UA sellers are a dice roll on if the package gets to you at a decent time, though RU > US shipping is slowish too.
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     @PurpCat
     > though RU > US shipping is slowish too
     Russian Postal services are literal snail mail — and customs processing doesn't make it any better.
     Even in better times, like in 2010s, you could wait for your package for months. Once a parcel arrived to me in 5 (!) months — I have already forgotten about it and considered it long lost :marseylaughpoundfist:
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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Oct-2023 03:07:25 JST 

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     @m0xEE @iska @PurpCat @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 @Meemoo @luithe Eh, it improved a lot in the last 10 years or so. Most of the shit I order from Aliexpress arrives in two weeks, don't remember last time I had to wait for more than a month.
   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Oct-2023 03:10:09 JST 

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     @PurpCat @DemonSixOne @Giganova8 @Meemoo @iska @luithe @m0xEE @wan Search sucks, most results are just some random security cameras. Only found this one for ~100 dollars.
     Screenshot_20231010_210903.png
   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Oct-2023 03:14:15 JST meso

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     @mint @m0xEE @iska @PurpCat @DemonSixOne @Giganova8 @Meemoo @luithe that ones like a panorama camera like a really wide angle one. very cool. look up зенит фотоснайпер it's badass
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     @mint
     Ali is miles better for some reason — probably priority treatment by the customs. Even US→RU used to be not that bad, EU — just forget about it. UK (then still part of the EU) had been particularly bad, once I've been waiting for a t-shirt for months — as there was no tracking number, I considered it lost and contacted the sender for another one — in a few weeks both arrive! :marseyemojismilemoutheyes:
     I've also been subscribed to a few British periodics — sometimes they arrive on time, sometimes several issues arrive at the same time, some never arrive — always a gamble :marseyshrug:
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     @meso @m0xEE @iska @DemonSixOne @mint @Giganova8 @Meemoo @luithe 36 round assault camera
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     @iska I think @mint is right, it just got better in the recent years, in 2010s it had been a complete clusterfuck, I have once received a box that was totally squashed and all the CDs inside smashed :marseygiveup:
     And of course you might just be lucky :marseyemojismilemoutheyes:
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     @m0xEE@breloma.m0xee.net @PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @DemonSixOne@poa.st @wan@poa.st @mint@ryona.agency @Giganova8@varishangout.net @Meemoo@varishangout.net @luithe@varishangout.net I didn't have much trouble with russian postal stuff yet, I bought a bunch of tech on avito from across the country and it all came within 3-7 days, without any of it being broken.

   • Iska (iska@catposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Oct-2023 04:03:24 JST Iska

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     @m0xEE@breloma.m0xee.net @PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @DemonSixOne@poa.st @wan@poa.st @mint@ryona.agency @Giganova8@varishangout.net @Meemoo@varishangout.net @luithe@varishangout.net
     I did though have a moment where I once bought an i7 3632qm, didn't pick it up for 3 days (and also haven't answered any DMs) and the seller just sent it back to himself, right as I was about to pick it up.
     Avito couldn't just do the refund itself (because the order was marked as "delivered") so he had to send to me, which is suboptimal.
     
     The thing is that he could've just waited until a week passed and everything would've been sent back automatically, including the money.

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     TBH, I've never used intranational deliveries, I've been selling a bass once and one guy literally begged me to send it to another city, but I refused as I've always considered it a hassle. Luckily I set the price low enough to find a person willing to get it off my hands the same day.
     Now I see this ZIF-IDE solid state drive on sale — these are old and extremely rare. And it's dirt cheap, but it's in another city so I'm still reluctant — so many moving parts, so many thing to worry about and I can get tricked at any stage of this, scary :marseyworried:
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     @m0xEE @iska @PurpCat @DemonSixOne @wan @Giganova8 @Meemoo @luithe If there are converters to mSATA/M.2, they might be used instead. I know there are for regular 2.5' IDE drives, not sure about ZIF.
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     @mint
     Yeah, there are converters and they would probably work, but I need it to replace the storage board in Efika MX nettop that I use as a proxy: https://breloma.m0xee.net/notice/AYp6eyVlrbQZzsWcnA
     This whole thing it tiny, I'm not sure anything but identical board would fit in its thin case. M2 to ZIF-IDE converter look thin enough even with M2 module itself, but you can never be sure until you try. Replacing with identical board would still be preferable, I don't even care if it's used as root partition that is on this board is immutable, all volatile parts: /var, /home, /tmp are on SD card anyway. Somehow it still got fried when the blackout happened. Mostly works, but on reading certain sectors it stops working — it looks as if the board gets disconnected. I know the file that got damaged and I can mark sectors used by it as bad with tune2fs, but I probably still won't be able to do full block device backups.
     I mean it's not unusable, but if it costs pennies, why not just replace it just to make sure it doesn't get worse? :marseyshrug:
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     Oh my, I have only just now opened this post in the context of the thread and realized how off topic panoramic cameras, postal services and storage boards in miniature computers are :marseylaughpoundfist:
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     @m0xEE @iska @DemonSixOne @wan @mint @Giganova8 @Meemoo @luithe on another note speaking of mini stuff I won from YAJ one of those mini servers and it somehow has BMC and a SAS array in the form factor of a mini desktop along with 4 PCIe low profile slots.
     
     I'd think about Nextcloud but unfortunately they use a Chrome tier release schedule.
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