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@SuperSnekFriend @dcc @threat @sjw @m0xEE @ins0mniak @mia @p @sysrq @jeff @rher @meso Wayland is good tho.
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@MK2boogaloo @threat @sjw @m0xEE @ins0mniak @mia @p @sysrq @jeff @SuperSnekFriend @rher @meso No
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@dcc @MK2boogaloo @SuperSnekFriend @ins0mniak @jeff @m0xEE @meso @mia @rher @sjw @sysrq @threat "The problem with my text editor is it isn't using my GPU. It just draws letters into a chunk of VRAM. My computer should be using more electricity for this. Please composite this shit NOW."
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@MK2boogaloo @SuperSnekFriend @dcc @ins0mniak @jeff @m0xEE @meso @mia @rher @sjw @sysrq @threat
> Wayland is good tho.
Yeah, I always hated being able to select a window manager that wasn't GNOME. I'm running fvwm2 and ratpoison and I hate that no one is forcing me into stupid gtk3 widgets *everywhere*. I wish this goddamn computer was Windows because I don't give a shit what I'm doing as long as someone else worries about it and notifications pop up that tell me to do things and there's no way to disable them. Every day I get up and think, "I can't wait for Wayland to make all of those Linux chuds into Windows users."
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@m0xEE @MK2boogaloo @SuperSnekFriend @dcc @ins0mniak @jeff @meso @mia @rher @sjw @sysrq @threat Decorations are server-side in Wayland, so there's a limit.
In any case, it doesn't give my anything I want and it breaks things I am using. I'm more likely to start using X on OpenBSD than I am Wayland on Linux.
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Sway has none of that, it does basically same thing dwm does, except you have dumb workspaces instead of real tags :cirno_shrug:
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I'd switch to OpenBSD myself, but to me it looks like hardware support for literally anything is literally non-existent there. I'd still like to be able to use my computer for things other than tinkering with my computer, like you know, having hardware video decoding and output support so I can at least watch some movies not from 35mm film — just like absolute most of people living in 2023 do. Having some basic Bluetooth support would also be nice, so at least a fucking mouse could work :marseylaugh:
As much as I absolutely despise linux and consider it complete and utter garbage, there are no real alternatives. You can't even cut back on modern stuff and live your life the way you did in the 90-ies — you can only pretend. As in the nineties I could go outside and buy music on CD at a nearest newspaper stand — I can't do that anymore. Whether we like it or not, things are different now.
As for Wayland — unlike systemd or this pulse-shit I have zero problems with it. I know that somewhere deep down it's all messy from software design perspective. But I have zero nostalgia for X11 either — it's not new, but it had accumulated a lot of legacy garbage throughout literally decades. So for me one is a piece of shit and the other one is also a piece of shit — but both get things done to an extent. I have old ThinkPads unable use Wayland and I use Xorg on them and I have a couple of more recent laptops that use Wayland — and I really like using them, "every frame is perfect" isn't bullshit in the slightest, I really like how buttery smooth everything is, I really like the straightforward way of controlling multiple outputs Sway gives me, scaling looks good, everything looks good. And it's not resource hungry at all, machines are 98% idle and most of RAM is used for filesystem cache. It's not perfect — acceptable.
And despite all this, I can totally get that for some it doesn't come even close to that — buggy hardware support is no joke, but I don't get throwing shit at it just because it doesn't work for you in particular and making it look as if something is fundamentally wrong with it — it isn't and for some it just works.
I'm not encouraging anyone to use Wayland if it implies dealing with broken hardware support, but I never encourage anyone to keep using X11 either — why? Just because this shit is old? It doesn't make any sense :marseyshrug:
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@p @MK2boogaloo @SuperSnekFriend @dcc @ins0mniak @jeff @m0xEE @meso @rher @sjw @sysrq @threat
You're arguing with a phonefag that doesn't even know how to use adminfe for his instance.
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@mia @MK2boogaloo @SuperSnekFriend @dcc @ins0mniak @jeff @m0xEE @meso @rher @sjw @sysrq @threat Well, of course someone using a crippled locked-down pants-computer with no keyboard is going to see nothing wrong with Wayland.
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@p @dcc @sjw @m0xEE @ins0mniak @mia @sysrq @MK2boogaloo @jeff @SuperSnekFriend @rher @meso
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@threat @MK2boogaloo @SuperSnekFriend @dcc @ins0mniak @jeff @m0xEE @meso @mia @rher @sjw @sysrq The gum I like is going to come back in style.
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@p @dcc @sjw @m0xEE @ins0mniak @mia @sysrq @MK2boogaloo @jeff @SuperSnekFriend @rher @meso do tell? is it blackjack? there was some japanese gum i cannot recall the name that came with toys. i ate it when i was in socal the 4th time at some anime place towards downtown. it tasted really good but fvck if i can't remember it
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