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1. LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 20:24:52 JST LS
   we used to able to fit pitfall in 4kb, and now baldur's gate 3 is over 100gb. is it because of commercialisation of education?
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 20:36:23 JST Moon

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     @lain it's fun to think about space probe code because it kind of shows that you can break almost every modern rule for good software development and make an exceptional product if you hire the very best people, and highly motivate them through national chauvinism.
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   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 20:36:27 JST LS

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     @Moon i think people overestimate the complexity of space probe stuff because it's "rocket science", but once you're in space there's practically nothing there and everything runs super basic inertial equations.
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 20:45:02 JST Moon

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     @lain Apollo code had to be a lot more complicated and they still made exceptionally reliable code.
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   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 20:58:38 JST LS

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     @Moon i'm not denying that they wrote a lot of software that worked well, i'm just not buying that they were somehow amazing masters of their craft while we idiot webdevs have to stand in awe before 1960s programmers. there are plenty of cases where software bugs destroyed rockets and probes, both in the US and in the USSR.
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:02:51 JST Moon

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     @lain survivor bias is real but I believe that before the commoditization of software engineering, engineers were on average of much higher quality. these people still exist in the world, they are just applying their high level of skill to areas that society actually rewards.
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   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:05:09 JST Moon

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     @lain national chauvinism is a also a brain hack to get people to do their best work for less personal gain haha
   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:05:09 JST LS

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     @Moon anarchists hate this trick
   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:22:14 JST LS

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     @shibao @Moon link plox
   • 受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:22:15 JST 受不了包

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     @Moon@shitposter.club @lain@lain.com i was watching a really interesting uncle bob talk about this actually

   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:23:14 JST LS

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     @shibao @Moon eepy bao, first thing she thinks about is booba
   • 受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:23:15 JST 受不了包

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     @lain@lain.com @Moon@shitposter.club im still being sweepy in bed ill send it soon!

   • 受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:26:09 JST 受不了包

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     @lain@lain.com @Moon@shitposter.club fine you get another https://szuru.bubbletea.dev/data/posts/13902_e5a333bd9c3b30d6.png

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   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:27:05 JST LS

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     @shibao @Moon that's how love works
   • 受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 21:30:20 JST 受不了包

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     @lain@lain.com @Moon@shitposter.club clearly i need to buy a balaclava before i can fall in love

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   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 22:04:33 JST LS

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     @shibao @Moon thanks girl you're a bro
   • 受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 22:04:35 JST 受不了包

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     @lain@lain.com @Moon@shitposter.club https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecIWPzGEbFc here u goe

   • 受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 22:11:05 JST 受不了包

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     @lain@lain.com @Moon@shitposter.club np bro dude ur a cutie

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   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 22:55:15 JST LS

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     @shibao @Moon @tokenwizard CQC (handholding)
   • 受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 22:55:16 JST 受不了包

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     @tokenwizard@calckey.tandj-homelab.dev @lain@lain.com @Moon@shitposter.club date idea https://szuru.bubbletea.dev/data/posts/13900_5cf82758d6dfc904.png

   • James Richardson (tokenwizard@calckey.tandj-homelab.dev)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 22:55:19 JST James Richardson

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     @shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev @lain@lain.com @Moon@shitposter.club "Revolution and chill" maybe? lol

   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 23:14:08 JST LS

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     @shibao @Moon he's saying a lot of good things about how to improve the general quality of dev (tests, pair programming, functional programming. i taught CS that way at uni with scheme and it was incredible how much better the code was after just one semester when compared to java or c courses).
     
     But in the end he says that we 'need' to self regulate and become a 'true profession' like doctors and lawyers, which are two of the best examples of what not to become.
   • 受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 23:21:36 JST 受不了包

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     @lain@lain.com @Moon@shitposter.club yes i don't agree with him either there, but the history of where computer scientists are pulled from was really interesting to me, i do think we will need some sort of standard like the equivalent of 0 based budgeting like TDD or something to point to to say "we did our due diligence", kind of interesting to me about how in military stuff things have been moving away from "xyz versions work together, all of these versions are Certified" to "we audited how your team works and if these processes are followed then anything you do is Certified", this might be what the whole devops thing was trying to say (except it didn't say anything at all almost)

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