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1. ren :shraggot: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 14:15:57 JST ren :shraggot:

   I assume this is about that conference where a straight man said we need more straight male allies; can someone please explain why individuals who identify as non-men and non-women want to be included in women’s conferences?

   Legitimate answers only. This happened with Roe v Wade was overturned, you know, self identified non men and non women wanting to be included in the conversation about women’s rights.

   • NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 14:15:51 JST NEETzsche

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     @teratology >Do you think that a law automatically stops discrimination from occurring?
     
     No. Especially considering how you're openly trying to engage in discrimination while crying about those who bypass it. Do you actually think discrimination is somehow better when it's to your benefit or are you just a psychopath looking for a pretext?
   • ren :shraggot: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 14:15:52 JST ren :shraggot:

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     • NEETzsche

     @NEETzsche Are you arguing against laws criminalizing sex based discrimination? Do you think that a law automatically stops discrimination from occurring?

     You operate under a worldview where you are the ultimate victim for being a huwite man. Life hasn’t treated you well and we must all hear about it. Do you want a gold star? 🥇

   • NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 14:15:53 JST NEETzsche

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     @teratology The price you pay for sex-based discrimination being forbidden is it's a two way street. The same applies to race-based discrimination. If you gripe about this discrimination against you (you just did) while insisting on having it go to your benefit (you just did) is a hypocrisy so egregious that it merits criminal consequences. Jail time, lashes. It's unacceptable, and I'm not accepting it.
   • NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 14:15:54 JST NEETzsche

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     @teratology These conferences are for "women in tech" to network and to create job opportunities exclusive to them. Why should "women" get special treatment in tech?
   • ren :shraggot: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 14:15:54 JST ren :shraggot:

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     • NEETzsche

     @NEETzsche God forbid women network in a space together when men have dominated the computing industry since post WWII. I don’t understand why that bothers you.

     Are you a mens rights activist btw?

   • ren :shraggot: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 14:15:55 JST ren :shraggot:

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     • NEETzsche

     @NEETzsche I don’t think you understand what these conferences are for. I won’t engage because I know what your views are and that you believe that white men are the only demographic alongside the model minority you deem worthy of a technical role.

     So, men who bypass bullshit gender filters by pretending to be non-binary or pretending to be “trans” are in the right.

     I don’t see “pretending” to be any more or less harmful than claiming to be apart of a demographic you’re not apart of. People love to scapegoat pretending to disqualify someone from certain demographics, like religion. “No true scottsman”. It’s all the same in the end.

   • NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 14:15:56 JST NEETzsche

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     @teratology bluntly, I support men at women's tech conferences, because sex shouldn't be a disqualifier for things. These places absolutely should not be allowed to recruit women's specifically. There should be no job opportunities denied to men on the basis of their sex. So, men who bypass bullshit gender filters by pretending to be non-binary or pretending to be "trans" are in the right.
   • ren :shraggot: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 14:16:16 JST ren :shraggot:

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     • NEETzsche

     @NEETzsche

     Especially considering how you’re openly trying to engage in discrimination while crying about those who bypass it

     You’re not being discriminated against, you’re being quoted off of things you have said in various chats or on your own profile. My post isn’t about guys “bypassing” anything. Reading comprehension helps, you should read the screenshot of the original post I was actually replying to.

     Do you actually think discrimination is somehow better when it’s to your benefit or are you just a psychopath looking for a pretext?

     You view women creating their own spaces and events as a threat to you, you’re not that different from other groups who share the exact same viewpoint. :shranny: