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1. meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:15:22 JST meso
   no it isnt if someone delivered my stuff in that wacky thing id shoot them
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   • l (lebronjames75@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:15:27 JST l

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     @meso that cause you live in the balkans
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   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:18:38 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @meso how many extra trips would you have to make with an e-bike to deliver the same amount of goods a van can carry (I think they use 350[0]s or 450[0]s around here)
   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:19:52 JST meso

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     @vixn @coolboymew how is this leftist dawg
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:19:52 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @meso @vixn because it's most likely a climate reason and the journos are dishing out all the awful ideas for clickbait
   • vixn (vixn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:19:53 JST vixn

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     @meso @coolboymew seriously what is up with this leftist obsession with going back in time, but only for things that will economically destroy us

   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:20:13 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @meso @vixn Just say shitlib
   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:21:07 JST meso

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     @coolboymew @vixn thats just a liberal thing, any real leftist would be at least slightly against this depending on how retarded they are, as we all know who this benefits in the end if corpos and journos are pushing it so hard
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:22:45 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @meso @vixn I think the left/right thing is increasingly useless for this
     
     This is the "ruling class" and their sycophants who larps as bourgeois being an absolute pest as usual. They're on an entire other tier
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   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:25:34 JST meso

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     @vixn @coolboymew you don't have to be elites to fall for their lies and support what they do, they also sound more like liberals and environmentalists, not leftists
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   • vixn (vixn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:25:35 JST vixn

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     @coolboymew @meso except it’s not. I literally have family in California, who are no where near being elites, that believe in this shit. It’s absolutely left.

   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:26:57 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @meso @vixn This. One of the thing that ends up pissing off so many people is them acting as if they're the underdog when they have the entire establishment behind their back in some ways, it's them falling for elite propaganda and they should be labeled as the bootlickers they are. Left/Right isn't helping much here, it's elite forcing and ideology vs everyone else
   • vixn (vixn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:27:55 JST vixn

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     @meso @coolboymew why is it that the leftists are the ones that fall for the “elites lies” 99% more often?

   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:27:55 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @vixn @meso nah, this happens with the right too but it's just that it's the current zeitgeist. The "right" had the last one with the religious shit in the 70s to early 00s
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:27:59 JST Moon

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     @meso @vixn @coolboymew vox is regime propaganda, lots of people fall for propaganda.
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   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:29:19 JST meso

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     @vixn @coolboymew they are not, most people fall for the elite's lies, "left" or "right". you see it with Democrats and Vox/etc, you see it with Republicans and Fox News/etc
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   • Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:34:00 JST Hoss Delgado

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     If it's coming out of a journalist's mouth, it's a lie they were paid to tell you.
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   • vixn (vixn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:37:52 JST vixn

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     @coolboymew @meso the thing is there are tons of “everyone else” that I absolutely hate. They arent capable of independent thought. I do not to want them.

     Also Fox is a democrat outfit. “Fox Republicans” are on the left.

   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:37:52 JST meso

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     @vixn @coolboymew MEDS
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   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:38:27 JST meso

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     @Hoss @vixn @coolboymew not necessarily, there's good journalists, a rarity nowadays
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:38:45 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @meso @vixn @Hoss there's a few, and they're rarely found in the MSM nowadays yeah
   • Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:39:26 JST Hoss Delgado

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     More endangered than the California Condor.
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   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 22:40:04 JST meso

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     @Hoss @vixn @coolboymew >It became extinct in the wild in 1987
     a very well timed and perfect comparison
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   • vixn (vixn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 23:38:44 JST vixn

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     @meso @coolboymew you have no idea what is going on in the world around you, do ya mate?

   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 23:38:44 JST meso

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     @vixn @coolboymew Everyone i dont like is a leftist
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 02:38:41 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @meso @raphael @vixn These are entirely only possible in big city, locally. They're made for specialized courier, that already exists, and are expensive and nothing else
   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 02:38:42 JST meso

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     @raphael @vixn @coolboymew >It's more efficient for the delivery guy
     it's not
     >In any big city in Europe you see a good amount of deliveries being done by these cargo bikes.
     Gross. Don't think Europe is any better for doing this, they're just using us as a playground to test out their bullshit retarded ideas
     >lets this job be done even by kids who don't/can't drive.
     yeah, so everyone gets paid less. it's all about the money.
   • Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 02:38:47 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @vixn @meso @coolboymew

     If you think that everyone lives in a shitty American suburb, okay. But how is that going to "destroy the economy" in an urban environment?

     In any big city in Europe you see a good amount of deliveries being done by these cargo bikes. It's more efficient for the delivery guy, reduces traffic and lets this job be done even by kids who don't/can't drive.

   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 02:39:05 JST meso

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     @raphael @coolboymew @vixn though that guy is retarded and its not going to destroy the economy, you are right
     
     it's also not just about American suburbs, it's also about rural areas. people don't live far away from cities only in America. cities suck anyways, suburbs suck too though
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 02:45:19 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @raphael @vixn @meso these literally already exists
     
     Here's the thing tho', it's replacing nothing, it's an extremely use case that only happens because downtown is where a lot of the companies are located, they don't serve the full city either
     
     It's nothing new, it's nothing exciting, it cannot serve beyond this, it's expensive so it's basically business only use and yadda yadda. It's replacing nothing because it cannot
   • Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 02:45:22 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @coolboymew @vixn @meso

     Which part of "urban delivery" you missed? Of course this is only for cities and areas with higher population density.

   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 02:45:55 JST meso

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     @raphael @vixn @coolboymew not my cities retard, your cities suck. total shitholes, you don't even have a yard, at least amerimutt suburbanites have that. I live in Europe too, just the good part that's increasingly being worsened by the West.
     >Of course in remote/rural areas with lower density you'd still need bigger vehicles because the trips are less frequent.
     that's not why you need a car to get to rural areas
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   • Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 02:45:58 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @meso @vixn @coolboymew

     No one is saying to use everything for bikes, genius. Of course in remote/rural areas with lower density you'd still need bigger vehicles because the trips are less frequent.

     > cities suck anyways

     *Your* cities do. But I guess this argument doesn't really matter for someone who likely doesn't get out of their basement that often.

   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 03:18:26 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @raphael @vixn @meso
     
     >Food delivery, pharmacies
     
     Delivery boys already have their cars
     
     >small amazon packages
     
     Amazon, at least here, covers several cities and the delivery dude exits the warehouse and do this all day
   • Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 03:18:28 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @coolboymew @vixn @meso

     > it's expensive so it's basically business

     Food delivery, small amazon packages, pharmacies. All of that can be delivered with a bike.

     In big cities from South America, there is a whole industry (look for "São Paulo motoboys") that basically crushes any attempt from UPS or Fedex entering the market.

     > it's nothing exciting,

     So what?

   • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 03:23:45 JST Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

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     @coolboymew @meso @vixn It's their main character syndrome showing. Like how Luke Skywalker and the rebellion were always going to defeat the Galactic Empire because George Lucas was on their side.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 03:31:18 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @raphael @vixn @meso
     
     >And get stuck in traffic, take time to park, have higher operational costs...
     
     They have very little operational cost because the driver comes with the car. So the small restaurant or pharmacy doesn't have to maintain a bike. Then the delivery boy take all commands in one go and go deliver them at certain hour. With a bike that'd be a lot of coming and going
     
     >And if you have 4 people on bikes, you can cover the whole itinerary in one hour.
     
     Not they can't, the Amazon delivery boys covers places that takes hours to get to in cars. They cover both the city close to the warehouse and 3 other cities closeby
   • Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 03:31:21 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @coolboymew @vixn @meso

     > Delivery boys already have their cars

     And get stuck in traffic, take time to park, have higher operational costs...

     while someone on a bike can *literally* stop at the building door leave the package and go on to the next.

     > exits the warehouse and do this all day.

     And if you have 4 people on bikes, you can cover the whole itinerary in one hour.

     You do understand we are talking about "last mile" here, right?

   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 03:46:59 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @raphael @vixn @meso And I'm talking about Montréal. There is like 1 or 2 local Amazon warehouse and they cover an insane amount of distance
   • Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 03:47:04 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @coolboymew @vixn @meso

     > the driver comes with the car.

     So, the talk about "companies pushing this because of money" is total bullshit.

     > They cover both the city close to the warehouse and 3 other cities closeby

     You keep talking about logistics for the typical US suburb when I am talking about places with higher pop density, which (as I understand it) is what the article frames as "urban" scenario.

     This is not going anywhere. Better to leave like this.

   • スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:46:14 JST スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z:

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     @raphael @coolboymew @vixn @meso
     >send delivery ebikes into an american city
     >driver gets off to deliver a thing
     >all other packages and possibly the entire ebike stolen by the time they get back
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   • sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:58:59 JST sapphire

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     @raphael @coolboymew @vixn @meso now do the fact that they’ve gotta go back and forth between the distro center every 4 packages because a bike can’t carry any more.
     
     When I was doing amazons ride share delivery, they were loading those vans for 12 hour days
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   • Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:59:08 JST Rusty Crab

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     @skylar @coolboymew @meso @raphael @vixn OH MY GOD DO YOU NOT SEE THIS THE BIKE ALREADY GOT STOLEN
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     @skylar @raphael @vixn @coolboymew @meso crime doesn't exist it's all just reparations
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 08:59:19 JST Moon

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     @sapphire @raphael @vixn @coolboymew @meso nobody working at vox has ever worked any job besides the cushy job their rich parents got them at a shitlib media rag right out of college.
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     @DemonSixOne @raphael @vixn @coolboymew @meso they ship the weights separately, there’s a per order weight limit. Found that out when I ordered another pair of plates from Amazon and they came on different days
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     Probably depends on how they get packaged for distrubtion too. A pair of plates or even a single 45 would probably still be comical.
   • Radians (demonsixone@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2023 09:18:25 JST Radians

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     I want to watch someone to try delivering this on a bike.
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     @DemonSixOne @raphael @vixn @coolboymew @meso oh yeah I watched the sheboon who delivered one of them struggle up to my porch and drop it off, came out and hupped it like it was a pillow and brought it inside while she watched