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1. Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 10:31:26 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

   I’ve always said I hated the opaque, nonsensically academic nature of bronze age pervert and his weird iron grip as the last font of RW ‘dissidence’ in mainstream twitter.

   This guy’s take actually makes some sense to me, in that the BAP sphere is SUPPOSED to be arcane and labrynthine, it’s not supposed to be accessible or practicable. It’s high-minded ivory towerism for guys who keep trying to stay on the cutting edge of right wing thought, a reading circle where they can all sit on the fringes of society and masturbate over esoterica without actually destabilizing culture.

   (I STILL don’t really have a succinct read on what the guy’s beliefs are, I’ve continued to wait for his fans to package them up in a digestible way for outsiders. The fact they’re very culty reinforces this belief that it’s a sort of container. You’re not meant to find a bullet pointed list of BAP tenets - you’re supposed to listen to 48 hours of carribean rhythms and retweet his posts of centerfolds from vintage Playgirl magazines)

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 10:32:10 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     So far the only IRL lessons I’ve heard from BAP acolytes are “well it’s about being a warlord, and why everything needs to like collapse“. Which sounds cool on paper, but results in being a childless dead-ender focused on the pleasures of the flesh - and that’s just ZOGlife w/ a veneer of self-righteousness.

   • :swastika: Eddie Fucksaw :swastika: (chainsaw_appreciator@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:14:08 JST :swastika: Eddie Fucksaw :swastika:

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     >I STILL don’t really have a succinct read on what the guy’s beliefs are
     Larp as a character in a greco-roman fantasy novel and things will work out, somehow.
     That's it. That's the mystery.
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   • marlin (marlin@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:14:17 JST marlin

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     I stopped paying attention to him and his coterie when he started preaching "travel to third world countries and impregnate locals."
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   • :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay: (rmiv@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:18:40 JST :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay:

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     ….curious take. thank you friend what do you think is the truth here.

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:18:40 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     I’ve pretty much disliked BAP since he sprung up on my radar just because of the retarded cult nature of his work. It’s nonsensical to outsiders, every time I’ve asked his fans to summarize his beliefs - you know, something you wanna do for things you believe in when you speak to a potential recruit - they seem stuck in this “You should just read Bronze Age Mindset! Or listen to Carribean Rhythms!”

     The fact he’s been allowed to remain on twitter absolutely reeks. He’s like THE “dissident” RW guy to normies now, and he doesn’t seem like one of us at all. That’s leaving out the weird history of gay escort adverts he supposedly posted, or his whole “I’m just posting pinups of gay porn stars because I admire the male form”

     Most of all I have zero faith in anyone who isn’t telling white men their highest purpose and calling in life is to become a father to quality white children. We don’t have the luxury of being celibate, sterile, or hedonistic dead-ends. We owe it to our people to father children, it’s the only way out.

   • marlin (marlin@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:28:01 JST marlin

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     • :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay:
     Even worse, his advice is "don't have children, they'll dull your edge and make you into dhimmis (tax cattle)."
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   • Magmaearth (lavaearth@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:28:12 JST Magmaearth

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     • :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay:
     Red line, identity
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   • Arkana (arkana@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:28:12 JST Arkana

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     • Magmaearth
     @Lavaearth @WashedOutGundamPilot @RMIV Somebody made this twitter thread on that which has some good info. I mostly dislike his stupid baby talk
     
     https://files.catbox.moe/kpt1hn.png
     Screenshot 2023-03-26 at 15-35-10 Thread by @InternetRadical on Thread Reader App.png
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   • :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay: (rmiv@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:28:13 JST :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay:

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     i don’t trust him. listened to one episode of Carribean Rhythms and…. like, they talked for over an hour and managed to say nothing at all.

     it’s wasn’t esoteric; it’s vapid.

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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:29:55 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay:

     Makes more and more sense as a contianment thing. Think about the kind of RW millennial who’s watched every supposed thinker go from exciting prospect to retarded lolcow. He wants to be able to latch on to an ideological guy who’s got some staying power, and this veneer of intelligence and highbrow nonsense might be aimed squarely at providing that.

     Nobody can laugh at you if they don’t know what the hell you even believe. Wallpaper like buff dudes and mentions to historic warlording just top it off for the young dudes

   • :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay: (rmiv@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:33:41 JST :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay:

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     • Arkana
     • Magmaearth

     your jew-dar is on-point. thank you friend.

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   • Magmaearth (lavaearth@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:33:42 JST Magmaearth

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     • :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay:
     • Arkana
     I got suspicious of the guy when he made one too much comments saying that men should have "demonic" sexuality.
     
     Turns out it is a J.
     
     Very good for my anti-semitism.
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   • NotImportant (notimportant@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:34:26 JST NotImportant

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     When everyone was still on Twitter I was confused why they kept talking about BAP. Dude was using a naked oiled up muscle man as a pfp, I didn't want to be seen with that shit.
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   • Arkana (arkana@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:34:33 JST Arkana

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     • Magmaearth
     @Lavaearth @RMIV @WashedOutGundamPilot I got suspicious when in his book he started detracting from "the nazi explanation" of why things are the way they are and instead kept pointing at women
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:37:12 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     I missed the tweets further up. Sorry. I spotted this while in the lounge last night and missed the other context. The guy has clippings - which I haven’t authenticated - that are poss. from the BAM book.

     I’m still leaving just a little wiggle room in my dislike of BAP. Despite the overall disagreements I’m open to the small chance he’s on the same side as me, so I don’t want to hammer him too hard if his work ends up helping us out. I doubt it does, but I’m open to the possibility it does. We need all the help we can get.

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:39:13 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     Before someone brings up my Woggy-take of “be a conman” I say that in reference to the skillset a conman has. It’s invaluable to be able to lie, to charm, and to talk your way out of a jam like a fraudster. (hence why they’re called ‘confidence men’ to begin with, you don’t check their creds because they seem so trustworthy)

     This is just telling people to outright BE the bad thing, not take their toolkits.

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:40:30 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     Here’s the root interaction that spawned the previous take

     Woggy Inc. regrets the timeline error

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:43:45 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     And the reaction when you say BAP isn’t a good guy? Ah, see you’re crazy because he simply CAN’T be a fed. The idea that someone is buying a few hundred copies of his boring ass book (which I KNOW is boring, since his first one has never been promulgated in clip form like Harrassment Architecture) is super schizo!

     Except it’s NOT AT ALL. “Powerless social Isolates” are LITERALLY the lit fuse that ultimately won Trump the presidency. The anon engine of dudes w/ plenty of time on their hands absolutely terrified ZOG to the point of actually printing out 4chan posts on a wall like they were enemy intel from Al Qaeda

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:49:02 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     Why isn’t this douche on poast he’d fit in great

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:49:51 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Hollyjollytailspike

     Yeah but we don’t wanna be, that’s the diff. It’s like heroin addicts wanting to get clean, as long as you keep holding out hope it counts for something.

     It’s the giving up and accepting it as permanent part that’s unforgivable

   • Hollyjollytailspike (monsterislandcolonizer@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:49:52 JST Hollyjollytailspike

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     You have hundreds of dead-enders focused on pleasures of the flesh right here on this website
   • nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 11:50:00 JST nugger

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     TO LARP AS A WARLORD YOU HAVE TO LARP AS A DAD
     EVEN IF YOU HAVE ZERO FAMILY AND ARE ALONE IN THE DARK WALMARTIAN WORLD, TO BE A WARLORD YOU WILL H A V E TO TAKE CARE OF THE BOYS LIKE THEY'RE YOUR BROTHERS AND YOUR SONS
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   • FestiveNova :confederateflag: :nv:🎄 (lordmordred@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 12:02:32 JST FestiveNova :confederateflag: :nv:🎄

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     • :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay:
     >it wasn’t esoteric; it’s vapid.
     A lot of podcasts are like that: too much talking when most of it means fuck all in the long run.
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   • Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum (rudolf_von_goldenbaum@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 12:02:42 JST Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum

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     He mentions the new book being artificially promoted, I also noticed a few years ago that normiecons all suddenly started doing "hit pieces" on the BAP book in a way that seemed designed to make him look cool even though on the surface they were complaining. "Oh man look at this dangerous edgy new guy that the online right is all following, we'd better look out for him!". A similar tactic was used when libtard media "complained" about the Intellectual Dark Web.
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   • FestiveNova :confederateflag: :nv:🎄 (lordmordred@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 12:02:50 JST FestiveNova :confederateflag: :nv:🎄

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     Pseudo means fake not all that over elaborate word salad.

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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 12:11:34 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Hollyjollytailspike

     To prevent it, not to actually connect them. It’s like a containment thing, direct energies and make young would-be RW boys end up in this dead end ideology that doesn’t resonate with healthy people who build families and have lots of white babies.

     Most charitable take I could see Bap being pro-white is basically “well the collapse is good because the cream rises to the top and only the best of the best deserve to live anyways”. I get where he’s coming from but it seems….threadbare. If you’re the resident BAPist I’d love some bullet points to assess him better, though.

   • Hollyjollytailspike (monsterislandcolonizer@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 12:11:35 JST Hollyjollytailspike

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     "The BAP agenda is to reduce the new right to a watered-down 4chan gimmick, unable and unwilling to connect with the working whites alienated from both parties"
     
     This is BS. Connect with them and do what? Votr Independent?
   • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Sep-2023 04:51:38 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     >I STILL don’t really have a succinct read on what the guy’s beliefs are
     
     this is really surprising to me, because I found it very obvious what the message or general principle behind his "BAPisms" was supposed to be. The guy literally has posts ending with "this is what I believe"
     and I think the homo-jacketing is a very weird but understandable reflex from groups that are getting in arguments with them. It's just "yeah you trolled me but you posted "fizeek" this means you want other men to see your body you are gay", some lefty weak guys do the same thing with MMA/UFC, some did that with the trs pool parties (which evolved into a joke i guess), and so on
     
     i'm not really a BAPhead but from what I understand, the bullet points would be
     -women have too much influence and men who subordinate themselves to this matriarchy are impotent slaves (longhouse)
     -very few are fit to rule and we need to cultivate extreme hierarchy (basically elitism)
     -be smart and buff
     -step outside law or societies views of what is good and bad, decide for yourself (some kind of Nietzsche idea i think)
     -west is conquered, if you want to have it back, you need to re-conquer, so be a conqueror
     
     it's definitely very head-in-the-clouds. And I havent followed the BAP dox also so I cant talk about that. before it, i got the impression that they only held off a little on (obvious) antisemitism because they were still tolerated on the surface net and so could reach more people. if this BAP guy is really a jew, then i think thats gonna be the end of his moobment because most of the BAM readers a re VERY antisemitic
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Sep-2023 04:51:38 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

     I like to gauge a movement by organic interaction, it allows me to judge the fruits of the tree as they fall to the ground rather than going and plucking off the shiniest, ripest ones from the branches directly.

     In the BAP case, his fans IRL are…..kinda retarded. They think they’re a lot more RW dissident than they really are, they think they’re cool and extreme racists but they’re bottom-rung workers and regular college students. Maybe the kid refueling my plane in Tulsa will be a warlord someday, but it just seems like palliative-care-ideology to tell a guy working a dead end job that actually he’s a super badass hero of legend at the moment and when things fall apart his inherent olympian soul will shine forth to astound us all.

     Kinda cope like, in that the BAP ouvre really doesn’t add anything new to any RW thought if it boils down to “be super badass and prepared, because the only way we’re getting free is fighting our way out”. He just corrals all the impressionable kids into yet another movement that wants us to be okay w/ living as childless dead ends