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1. John C Dvorak (johncdvorak@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 07:31:57 JST John C Dvorak

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   @51rH0n3y84d93r @aj Yes, so are these "post offices" just empty shells? They are specifically in the constitution for a reason and the reason was for sending and receiving mail. Is it supposed to happen by magic?

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     @Johncdvorak @aj remove the prohibition of competition with first class mail; that is not in the constitution as it's a law written after the fact. Competition can fill the need while still being constitutional.

     I'd argue your point is similar to demanding a state-ran grocery store. How are people supposed to get food without the state?

   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 07:31:57 JST Moon

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     @51rH0n3y84d93r @Johncdvorak @aj the post office remains relevant because there is a duty to service every part of the country including parts that would be totally unprofitable for private enterprise. I feel like you're in a losing fight on this, the post office is one of the few things you can absolutely show the government has the power to do, is definitely good idea and still relevant, and even works pretty well when republicans aren't conspiring to kill it with accounting tricks while taking lobbying money from fedex
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   • SirHoneyBadger (51rh0n3y84d93r@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 07:31:58 JST SirHoneyBadger

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     @aj @Johncdvorak not to get too pedantic, but it's the internet, the USPS is not mandated, but post offices and roads seemingly are. See the Cato article that suggests it can be better privatized. Ron Paul had mentioned this in the past with allowing for competition with first class mail: https://www.cato.org/blog/us-postal-service-constitution

     But good discussion, I learned more than I ever wanted to about mail and the fact the post office and roads are in fact mandated.

   • Sir A.J. :verified: 🥔 🇺🇸 🇳🇴 🇮🇪 (aj@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 07:31:59 JST Sir A.J. :verified: 🥔 🇺🇸 🇳🇴 🇮🇪

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     Article I, Section VIII, clause 7:

     "To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;"

     establish = create, build, provide

     not optional, therefore required.

     @Johncdvorak

   • SirHoneyBadger (51rh0n3y84d93r@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 07:31:59 JST SirHoneyBadger

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     @aj @Johncdvorak now do the militia part a few lines down and get back to me when they're reestablished. The militia is not synonymous with the army, navy or national guard.

   • Sir A.J. :verified: 🥔 🇺🇸 🇳🇴 🇮🇪 (aj@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 07:31:59 JST Sir A.J. :verified: 🥔 🇺🇸 🇳🇴 🇮🇪

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     @51rH0n3y84d93r @Johncdvorak

     not arguing that Congress is not doing their job, rather pointing out that Congress is required to provide Post Offices.

   • SirHoneyBadger (51rh0n3y84d93r@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 07:32:00 JST SirHoneyBadger

     USPS being authorized in the USA Constitution does not mean it's required despite John's assertions.