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If you have a Liberty Safe, you better un-have it. The way I understand this, the FBI had a warrant for the customer, but did not subpoena the company for the code - it was given over willingly just by virtue of the warrant for their customer.
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They don't say that on their site. It's not even one of the solutions listed for a lockout.
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@matty I was wondering how did Liberty have the access code? Is it an internet connected safe or do they have a master code?
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According to them, they keep a database of access codes to give to customers if they prove they own the safe. Or, in this case, the federal government lmao.
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It’s p normal.. except the part about just handing things over without a court order.
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@bot @matty @gray seems insane.
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@matty lol That’s retarded. Anyone who bought a safe from gets what they deserve then.
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@bot @matty @gray I still think they should have to work for it.
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@bot @matty If I remember correctly they did have a warrant in this case.
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To search the property, which is different. It doesn’t actually matter tho, the FBI isn’t going to see a safe and be like “well, we don’t have the code so it’s over!” so there’s not much practical difference.
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@bot @matty @gray they did us all a favor by making sure it is public knowledge that safe companies keep backdoors to safes on file.
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They sort of did him a favour in a way since they didn’t have to destroy the safe to get in, which they would’ve done in either case.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/liberty-safe-responds-to-backlash-as-anger-grows-over-giving-fbi-code/ar-AA1gniHp
>we promise to delete your file if you ask nicely
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> Please don't leave us, bro. We'll totally delete it. We really will. You have to trust us.
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@sickburnbro @matty I don't know. The fact that a backdoor exists at all is a bit fucky to me
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yeah, that's the part that really is gobsmacking. It is one thing to have a secret code that lets you in that people aren't aware exists, it's another thing entirely to just give it to the FBI because they ask.
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If they demonstrated that each file was stored on its own device, which was then drilled through and tossed into a garbage compactor on request, I'd believe them.
Then again, buying a "gun safe" is like buying A10 wyagu beef from Walmart. Just buy a legitimate bank grade safe.
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A safe?!
I grew up in the hood, so I just leave my door unlocked and sit in the dark with my gun waiting for visitors.
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@bot @matty @gray the fact that it should be assumed is now obvious. Honestly I would not by default assume that a lock maker keeps a backup key for every lock they make. Now I know better.
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You should just assume that tbh, and it really doesn’t matter if the FBI has a search warrant.
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@pressure @matty @bot @thatguyoverthere right just bury everything in your yard like back in the old days.
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@bot @matty @gray @thatguyoverthere
The real joke here is all these boomers keeping a giant fuck off safe on their property that screams "THIS IS WHERE ALL MY SECRETS AND VALUABLES AND SHIT ARE" and then being surprised that law enforcement takes the hint.
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@gray @matty @bot @thatguyoverthere
Or just exercise some kind of discretion, I don't know. I'm not a super hardcore iron dome opsec veteran patriot hackerman or anything so maybe I just don't have the REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE to understand the operational advantages of giant safes kept at my primary residence in plane view.