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Robert Reich (rbreich@masto.ai)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:26:26 JST Robert Reich

It's almost as though oligarchs having unilateral control over our most vital means of communication is not such a great thing after all…

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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:26:25 JST Moon
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  @rbreich Remember when you tweeted that Trump needs to understand that having a Twitter isn't a violation of his free speech. maybe you should shut the fuck up, tool
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:27:45 JST Moon
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  @rbreich You don't have principles so you deserve what you get.
  
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- Johnny Peligro :nafo: (mischievoustomato@beefyboys.win)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:27:48 JST Johnny Peligro :nafo:
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  @Moon @rbreich i love when leftoids get bit by what they supported in the past
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:28:15 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @Hyolobrika @MischievousTomato @rbreich @Moon and this is why we hate the shitlibs, none of them are leftist
  
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- Hypocrite Hater (hyolobrika@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:28:17 JST Hypocrite Hater
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  @rbreich @MischievousTomato @rbreich @Moon the same happened to rightoids. most censorship used to be right-wing (still is to some extent), then some time back it became a progressive thing resulting in the big tech censorship we all know and love
  
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- anemone (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:34:50 JST anemone
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  > no it hasn't.
  
  Oh come on, historically who was trying to get books pulled from libraries or writing the FCC?
  
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- 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:34:50 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸
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  You tell me.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipper_Gore
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  1. Tipper Gore
    
    Mary Elizabeth "Tipper" Gore (née Aitcheson; born August 19, 1948) is an American social issues advocate, activist, photographer and author who was the second lady of the United States from 1993 to 2001. She was married to Al Gore, the 45th vice president of the United States, although they separated in 2010. In 1985, Gore co-founded the Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC), which advocated for labeling of record covers of releases featuring profane language, especially in the heavy metal, punk, and hip hop genres of music. Throughout her decades of public life, she has advocated for placing advisory labels on music (leading critics to call her a censor), mental health awareness, women's causes, children's causes, LGBT rights, and reducing homelessness. Early life and education Born Mary Elizabeth Aitcheson in Washington, D.C., Tipper Gore is the daughter of John Kenneth "Jack" Aitcheson, Jr., a plumbing-supply entrepreneur and owner of J & H Aitcheson Plumbing Supply, and his first wife, Margaret Ann (née Carlson) Odom (who lost her first husband...
- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:34:51 JST Moon
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  @Hyolobrika @MischievousTomato @rbreich > most censorship used to be right-wing
  
  no it hasn't.
  
  > the same happened to rightoids.
  
  so what, he's doing it here and now and I'm reminding people that he, specifically, does that.
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:37:23 JST Moon
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  @Hyolobrika @MischievousTomato @rbreich @coolboymew maybe he's talking about exactly what i was talking about in my reply, they are supposed to have principles but the principles change depending on if they're in power. i never once said this was unique to either side.
  
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- Hypocrite Hater (hyolobrika@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:37:24 JST Hypocrite Hater
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  @rbreich @coolboymew @MischievousTomato @rbreich @Moon I still don't know what "leftist" and "rightist" are supposed to mean so I just use them as tribal markers
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:39:26 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @Moon @Hyolobrika @MischievousTomato @rbreich Moon said it simpler than I was typing:
  
  There's different ideologies within the spectrum
  
  Within the left/right dichotomy, there's fundamental principles. Let's go with free speech, an easy one. It's been a leftist principle for years and now the dynamics have completely changed in the most fucked up of ways
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:41:03 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @Moon @Hyolobrika @MischievousTomato @rbreich democrats are supposed to be on the "left", supposed. They aren't, at all. Their supporters thinks they're on the left. They aren't, at all
  
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- 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:42:57 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸
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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Vyr1TylTE
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgAF8Vu8G0w
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  1. Dee Snider's PMRC Senate Hearing Speech (Full)
    
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    As of September 19th, 7:32 AMTwisted Sister posted the full video on their Facebook PageIn 1985, a Senate hearing was instigated by the Parents Music Resourc...
  2. Frank Zappa at PMRC Senate Hearing on Rock Lyrics
    
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    The Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC) was an American committee formed in 1985 with the stated goal of increasing parental control over the access of chil...
- anemone (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:42:58 JST anemone
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  Yeah this one democrat woman was obsessed with putting warning stickers on CDs. Never mind the Reagan admin was trying to get explicit lyrics banned entirely or Wal-Mart forced artists to release alternate censored versions of their music in order for it to be sold.
  
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- Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:47:54 JST Christi Junior
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  @coolboymew @MischievousTomato @Hyolobrika @rbreich @Moon If every single notable left-liberal movement in the West now demonstrably values tranny insanity, White genocide and censorship more than workers rights, peace and freedom, I'd argue that's what leftism now is.
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 04:47:54 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @ChristiJunior @MischievousTomato @Hyolobrika @rbreich @Moon technically, yes
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 05:08:25 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @Hyolobrika @MischievousTomato @Moon @rbreich The biggest issues of all is that the shitlibs are completely obsessed with the republicans and are completely ignoring the wolves in their nest. So who's actually left to take care of leftist issues in a leftist way? Nobody
  
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- Corfiot (corfiot@pleroma.elementality.org)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 05:59:21 JST Corfiot
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  Free speech has been redefined, like every other important word. Every idea is being turned around and redefined in a convenient, usually opposite, way by those who control the narrative, no matter their ideology. Currently, it's progressives.
  
  Free speech -> speech that is not "hate speech"
  Equality -> two things are equal if they involve "equity"
  Responsibilities -> anything that is not "rights"
  Rights -> anything that makes us feel good according to our ideology
  Safe -> anything that is not "harm", that is "affirming"
  Woman -> anything not "toxically masculine"
  Justice -> anything that does not "incite hatred"
  
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- Corfiot (corfiot@pleroma.elementality.org)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 06:02:24 JST Corfiot
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  @coolboymew @Hyolobrika @MischievousTomato @Moon @rbreich
  Imagine being on "the right", fighting and actually winning. Does anyone think this shit will just stop, or will those in power try to indoctrinate everyone else in any way possible? Feeling kinda blackpilled tonight
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 06:02:53 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @corfiot @MischievousTomato @Hyolobrika @rbreich @Moon it's hard to say, because I don't see the current right doing fuck all about it
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 08:06:46 JST Moon
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  @animeirl @Hyolobrika @MischievousTomato @rbreich oh i was thinking internet censorship yeah that is true. sure right wing were hypocrites
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 08:06:47 JST Moon
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  @animeirl @Hyolobrika @MischievousTomato @rbreich libertarians pro-business conservatives started the "it's a private business you can't tell them what to do" and left wingers used it as a taunt when right wingers were getting banned and were hypocritically appealing to free speech. then when it flipped back to affecting left wingers it became a free speech issue for them again.
  
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- anemone (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-2023 08:06:48 JST anemone
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  I dont remember internet censorship being much of an issue until recently
  
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