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1. LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:29:41 JST LS
   A very good article on 'realistic prepper advice', a bit long.
   
   https://anarchonomicon.substack.com/p/realistic-prepper-advice
   • Machismo repeated this.
   • Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:36:38 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     Some people prefer to fight it out. :shrugz:

   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:36:38 JST LS

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     • Terry Hendrix II 🏹
     @thendrix the article talks about that too, and tells people that 'fight it out' might mean living for all their live under an oppressive system like the USSR
   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 01:38:39 JST LS

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     • Terry Hendrix II 🏹
     @grillchen @thendrix th point of the article it is that preppers tend to prepare for a short fight against random bands of aggressors, like a zombie apocalypse scenario, and that it's better to prepare for a violently aggressive government that has vastly more resources than you.
   • grillchen (grillchen@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 01:38:40 JST grillchen

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     • Terry Hendrix II 🏹
     @lain @thendrix also sometimes fighting just means dying. it might be more impactful to keep the fight going in exile. but it is of course nice to have an option.
   • mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 02:43:30 JST mk

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     @lain

     "This is why in most circumstances getting out should be done early as possible, best case you’d establish some right of residency in a second country well in advance"

     https://anarchonomicon.substack.com/p/realistic-prepper-advice

     should people in #communist #canada prepare to leave right now?

     https://peertube.satoshishop.de/w/qBQVtoWu4ednpxWRm3dM9u

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   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 02:58:50 JST LS

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     • kaia
     @grillchen @kaia you've internalized this hateful mindset so much it's really getting to me
   • grillchen (grillchen@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 02:58:51 JST grillchen

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     @kaia @lain vegan prepper i watched had books and games. though he even had stuff to share with others. most prepper hate people im afraid
   • kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 02:58:52 JST kaia

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     @lain most preppers haven't tried living a week from their canned dog food to realize their 3-year's worth of cans is killing them within a few months.
   • l (lebronjames75@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 03:45:09 JST l

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     @kaia @lain people should ask ME. a hobby-specialist in this kinda stuff
     
     a person needs ~~3 snickers a day for motivation if all days are hard physically, 2 if they are moderate, 1 if they are full rest a day.
     thats ~~~<900 snickers a year per person
     one snickers is roughly 55g
     
     so per person you need to hoard ~~<50 kilograms of snickers (equivalents are fine too, such as muesli bars, bounty, mars, milky way, skittles, sour candy, etc etc etc) a year per person
     
     so a four person family, in a 2 year shelter, would require something like 400kg of snickers [equivalents, cookies, all ok]
     
     next up, GRAINS
     going safe, 150kg of grain per person per year, and it better be grain you actually eat day to day. so prolly like 80+-kg wheat (includes pastas), 30 kg rice, 30kg oats, 10kg "other" grains would be my setup, so thats 1200 kg of various grains for 4 people 2 years. "Other" could be pre-mixed pancake mixed, etc etc.
     
     how much travel? MREs one per person per estimated day of big travels a year. Estimate 2 MREs a week is usage(random low-end asspulled number)
     ~~110 MREs total
     
     various room-temp OK spreads (peanut butter, chocolate spread), one jar a month? 24 jars
     
     probably something like 5-7 liters of cooking oil per person, so 40 liters total
     
     so thats
     40 liters oil
     1200kg grains
     400kg snickers
     110 MREs (81kg)
     so thats like 1750kg of foodstuff that needs to be changed every 2-3 years to stay at good prep at all times
     
     say the average foodstuff costs totals to 10€/kg (haha) then thats 17500€ / 3 years = ~~6000€ a year expenditure to keep a fresh prep supply ready at all times
     
     assuming the prepper family eats half of that properly and food doesnt get wasted, ~~50% of that expenditure is saved yearly into normal food costs
     
     stopping this post now
   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 03:45:09 JST LS

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     • l
     @lebronjames75 @kaia you can survive without burgers?
   • l (lebronjames75@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 03:49:10 JST l

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     • kaia
     @lain @kaia no, this is the minimum base-calculation for the average person, not me
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   • uoh (uoh@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 06:24:45 JST uoh

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     @lain good read thanks for sharing
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   • Lelouche 🌸 (lelouchebag@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 11:20:03 JST Lelouche 🌸

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     @lain is germany an oppressive state at the moment?
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   • cell (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 17:39:05 JST cell

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     @lain good article, though it's tinged with the author's personal worldview/experience
     
     prepper behavior here is usually associated with older generation; they're the ones who've seen social upheaval, but at the same time their sacrifices allowed current generation to enjoy new levels of wealth and prosperity...
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   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 19:41:55 JST LS

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     • Lelouche 🌸
     @lelouchebag depends on what you mean by that. most people living in germany don't especially think so.
   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 19:48:53 JST LS

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     • Lelouche 🌸
     @grillchen @lelouchebag i don't think the question was about the legitimacy of states, but whether people feel oppressed in germany. I don't think many do.
   • grillchen (grillchen@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 19:48:54 JST grillchen

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     • Lelouche 🌸
     @lain @lelouchebag is any state not oppressive lain?
   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:06:13 JST LS

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     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     @hj if you never travel outside the country, you don't need one.
   • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:06:14 JST Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:

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     @lain people.... Don't have passports?
   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:08:55 JST LS

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     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     @hj no, generally not
   • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:08:57 JST Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:

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     @lain you need one to get a job, go to college, get drivers license etc, no?
   • cell (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:16:47 JST cell

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     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     @hj @lain in some countries driver’s license is a commonly accepted and used ID (e.g. in america where they don’t have national ID), and i know someone there who traveled domestically using birth certificate
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   • cell (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:16:49 JST cell

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     • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:
     @hj @lain i can count a few here in sg who have expired ones, and many in id who don’t.
   • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:16:49 JST Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:

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     • cell
     @cell @lain what the fug, I mean I get it if it's expired, or in case of NK and RF only having internal passport, but how do you not have one? What, you just go by with your birth certificate until its time to get death one?