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1. Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 07:51:04 JST Moon
   at the end of the study they say centralization of moderation of the Fediverse will be REQUIRED.
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   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 07:51:03 JST LS

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     @Moon 👢 :nyan_lick:
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:01:34 JST Moon

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     also, internet observatory is heavily connected to the federal government so this isn't just "some study"
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   • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead: (giganova8@varishangout.net)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:15:41 JST Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:

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     • Christi Junior
     @ChristiJunior @Moon
     It's the only thing that works anymore, I fully expect that when Congress finally manages to get one of their internet censorship bills through it'll be cloaked in "save the children" bullshit, so that everybody who criticizes it can be slandered as pedophiles. :bocchi_dead:
     
     (It will, of course, do absolutely nothing to impede actual child molesters and will exclusively be used to track down people who say nigger or post spicy anime girls :chino_dead: )
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   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:15:42 JST Christi Junior

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     @Moon Oh wow, so the pro-Groomer faction will really try to justify their Censorship efforts by invoking child porn?
   • :btrfly: anime graf mays 🛰️🪐 (graf@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:16:29 JST :btrfly: anime graf mays 🛰️🪐

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     @Moon if you refuse to use centralized services to monitor your user you will be labeled a pedophile and dragged off to prison when they plant several hundred terabytes of the worst abuse materials imaginable in your house shortly before it burns to the ground
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   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:17:03 JST Christi Junior

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     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:
     @Giganova8 @Moon That's why we need to keep close track of what these "save the children" pro-censorship types think about shit like public school Groomers and Drag Queen Story Hour.
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   • burner (burner@frennet.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:17:19 JST burner

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     • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:
     • PC-9801 Enjoyer

     @Pawlicker@bae.st @verita84@poster.place @Moon@shitposter.club of course, "academics"

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   • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:17:20 JST Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:

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     @Moon
     
     Who is saying this shit
   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:17:20 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:
     @verita84 @Moon https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/io/news/addressing-child-exploitation-federated-social-media
   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:28:37 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:
     • burner
     @verita84 @burner @Moon it's also a mechanism of control. Anyone who can't get into the cool club of those who can filter pedoshit will get harassed by feds constantly.
     https://poa.st/@graf/posts/AFcUm2ZycTmRk3XeDI
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   • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:28:38 JST Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:

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     • PC-9801 Enjoyer
     • burner
     @burner @Moon @Pawlicker
     
     Where groomers are made
   • verified neko :verified::verified::verified::makemeneko: (roboneko@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:30:02 JST verified neko :verified::verified::verified::makemeneko:

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     • Vitor Hugo
     • verified neko :verified::verified::verified::makemeneko:
     • ロミンちゃん
     @romin @Moon @vhns fedi on top of pirate radio nodes when?
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   • ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:30:03 JST ロミンちゃん

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     • Vitor Hugo
     @vhns @Moon real ID to access the internet. It's already in the works iirc.
   • verified neko :verified::verified::verified::makemeneko: (roboneko@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:30:03 JST verified neko :verified::verified::verified::makemeneko:

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     • Vitor Hugo
     • ロミンちゃん
     @romin @Moon @vhns would that even be deemed constitutional tho? let alone enforceable
     
     anyway they'd have to outlaw tor, which the feds themselves created :puniko_shrug:
     
     if we set aside videos and large images, both of which are hardly necessities, the core of networks like fedi is inherently very low bandwidth. there's no practical reason you couldn't operate it on top of a mesh net
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   • Vitor Hugo (vhns@yuga.surf)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:30:04 JST Vitor Hugo

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     @Moon how would this even be enforced?
   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:32:43 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     • 😼 Space Catboy :redrocket:
     • Vitor Hugo
     @galena @Moon @vhns the truth is big tech isn't going to go down without a fight. And big tech has plenty of cp scandals but lawyers to throw at the problem.
     https://www.wsj.com/articles/instagram-vast-pedophile-network-4ab7189
     
     Bing images was extra notorious at one point for this, I wouldn't doubt it is still this bad, and I have heard Yandex is this bad still.
     https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/10/unsafe-search/
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   • 😼 Space Catboy :redrocket: (galena@paws.moe)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 08:32:44 JST 😼 Space Catboy :redrocket:

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     • Vitor Hugo
     @vhns @Moon Blanket ban on fedi as we know it
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 09:14:30 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Christi Junior
     • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️
     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:
     @caekislove @ChristiJunior @Moon @Giganova8
     
     >Most Americans now want mass censorship.
     
     They don't. Eternally online propagandized retards are not the majority and any polls saying the contrary are 100% cooked one way or another
   • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 09:14:31 JST Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

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     • Christi Junior
     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:
     @ChristiJunior @Giganova8 @Moon That's why we need to create robust encrypted social networks that mimic other internet traffic and/or filter everything through TOR and/or i2p. The politics are not in our favor. Most Americans now want mass censorship.
   • divVerent (divverent@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 10:13:19 JST divVerent

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     • cool_boy_mew
     • Christi Junior
     • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️
     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:
     @coolboymew @ChristiJunior @caekislove @Moon @Giganova8 I don't have that kind of optimism. With the right leading question, pretty sure you get 90% to agree that they want mass censorship. Of course, you can also make 90% oppose mass censorship by asking the questions the right way.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 10:13:51 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Christi Junior
     • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️
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     • divVerent
     @divVerent @ChristiJunior @caekislove @Moon @Giganova8 leading questions fails high school stats class
   • チャノさん (japananon@mitra.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 10:18:14 JST チャノさん

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     • Christi Junior
     • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️
     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:
     • jaf

     @jeff @caekislove @Moon @ChristiJunior @Giganova8 Don't see why you can't do both.

   • jaf (jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 10:18:15 JST jaf

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     • Christi Junior
     • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️
     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:
     @caekislove @ChristiJunior @Moon @Giganova8 literal lowest iq take ever.
     get kids off the internet and socially shames parents that let them on without any fucking mercy.
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 10:19:33 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Christi Junior
     • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️
     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:
     • divVerent
     @divVerent @ChristiJunior @caekislove @Moon @Giganova8 Yes / No but they can definitively write everything they want to lean in the way they want and then distribute it in the right circle to get exactly the answer they wanted and maybe even cook their own conclusions so that journos can propaganda
   • divVerent (divverent@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 10:19:34 JST divVerent

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     • cool_boy_mew
     • Christi Junior
     • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️
     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:
     @coolboymew @ChristiJunior @caekislove @Moon @Giganova8 In theory yes. In practice though... there is no way to write a question as NON leading! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahgjEjJkZks
     
     E.g.
     
     - "do you want mass censorship" - leading towards no censorship
     - "do you support filtering of radical and extremist content" - leading towards yes censorship
     - "do you support filtering of child abuse content" - leading towards yes censorship
     - "should providers be fully responsible for the content they host" - leading towards no censorship
     - "should providers be exempt from any responsibility for the content they host" - leading towards yes censorship
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 10:38:23 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Christi Junior
     • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️
     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:
     • divVerent
     @caekislove @divVerent @ChristiJunior @Moon @Giganova8 disgusting
   • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 10:38:24 JST Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

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     • cool_boy_mew
     • Christi Junior
     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:
     • divVerent
     @coolboymew @divVerent @ChristiJunior @Moon @Giganova8 Leading questions are permitted if it is a witness that you called
   • J上校🎄🎄🇺🇦 (colonelj@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 14:45:20 JST J上校🎄🎄🇺🇦

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     @Moon the ideas of an "open, free, anonymous internet" and "child safety" do not go hand and hand.
   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 01:34:03 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:
     • Jolly Rancher
     • PC-9801 Enjoyer
     • burner
     @Moon @burner @not_br549 @verita84 I should add too, a far more likely and riskier situation is this:
     
     Let's say some poastie snaps and attacks some public place. Actually no. It doesn't need to be that as shown by CVille and the Jogger case. It'll just be a poastie in a self defense situation, and then he gets his case fucked over because the cops found his TND and Jew meme cache. While this is happening, the mainstream media will try to understand this scary network Nazis use running hit pieces like they did with Poast's leak and that's when it'll be far harder to host something that isn't either on tor or with no frontend because hosters will start to cave a lot easier under pressure (see: why it's so hard to host KF now). .
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   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 01:34:04 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:
     • Jolly Rancher
     • PC-9801 Enjoyer
     • burner
     @not_br549 @Moon @burner @verita84 I should also add, what made Josh ditch hosting his own imageboard attempt wasn't the CSAM spam (he even managed to get CloudFlare's CSAM filter). No, it was the FBI contacting him because someone made a threat towards Israel or about killing Jews or something.
     
     And all it's going to take is one teen groomed by FBI agents and schizos online before the hit pieces come out (don't believe me? Remember how fast TPTB tried to erase the confederate flag after some bowlcut mass shooter had it in selfies?)
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   • Jolly Rancher (not_br549@jollyville.net)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 01:34:05 JST Jolly Rancher

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     • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:
     • PC-9801 Enjoyer
     • burner

     where groomers sit around a great circular table and masturbate. like the table in the ‘war room’ of Dr. Strangelove ..

   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 01:34:05 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:
     • Jolly Rancher
     • burner
     @not_br549 @burner @verita84 @Moon IMO though what I think is going to be more likely (since it's far easier to carry out) are fedposters.
     
     Remember how the feds were using threadreader the other month to search for anyone making threats towards Larry Plink of Crackrock? Or Alex Linder's fedpost that totally wasn't him that got DRC contacted by the FBI? Or how KF kept losing hosts for a while because of "no bad tactics" activists using lurker accounts to post fake threats and then reporting them the minute they clicked post?
     
     The best part is, you don't even need to have illegal content on your phone to false flag like this.