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1. Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:08 JST Nick
   Friendly reminder, you're never more than an ATM to her.
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:01 JST Nick

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @RMIV @SuperLutheran I didn't start anything. Super @'ed me. Which is fine, I like talking with him. But the way you turbo-autists always seem shocked and appalled that conversations occur on communication media is... special.
     
     And I'm not acting like anything is contradictory. I explicitly allowed for the fact that there are different perceptions of what it means to be alpha. You got very, very butthurt at that allowance. Because... reasons I get.
     
     As for "there will always be someone more alpha"...? Cool. You've addressed nothing I've said and decided to cop out of ever improving anything ever. Congrats... I guess.
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:02 JST Nick

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @RMIV @SuperLutheran Uhh... so it doesn't have multiple definitions... but you just gave three different ones (social standing, face-to-face,women's perceived.) So... uhh... what?
     
     But that doesn't dispute my point either way. How women perceive it or how men perceive it, there are innumerable examples of men who have it and still got monkey branched.
   • :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay: (rmiv@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:02 JST :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay:

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)

     @Nou @SuperLutheran alpha means “first” in the sense of preeminent or foremost. that a fixed definition can render differential application relative to context isn’t hard to understand. by acting like this is all contradictory or otherwise confusing, you are either being disingenuous for the purposes of being argumentative (it feels like you started this chat with Super because you were looking for a fight) or are telegraphing that this is hard for you to understand.

     that they got monkey branched suggests (3) possibilities. they were not as alpha as they presented, she encountered someone more alpha than them, or she is of such character sufficiently pathological to abandon most or all long term relationships.

   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:03 JST Nick

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @RMIV @SuperLutheran Even then for any definition of "alpha" you can come up with I can come up with ten different high profile guys who got monkey branched off the top of my head. CEO's, movie stars, athletes, monarchs, whatever definition you can come up with.
     "Just be alpha" is genuinely a bigger cope than "muh socio-economic factors."
   • :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay: (rmiv@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:03 JST :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay:

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)

     @Nou @SuperLutheran wut.

     alpha doesn’t feature multiple definitions. being a mega rich anything (alpha social status) does not equate to being alpha up close and face to face (behaviorally alpha).

     women do not perceive alpha in the way that men do.

   • SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:04 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)

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     @Nou Biological determinism is big gay, it's like natural theology for dweebs
   • :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay: (rmiv@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:04 JST :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay:

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)

     @SuperLutheran @Nou money doesn’t substitute for alpha. wealth by itself does not elicit sexual lust.

   • SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:05 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)

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     @Nou Hardwired, eh? So which one is the prostitution gene all these women have?
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:05 JST Nick

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @SuperLutheran It's next to the dumb and violent gene in blacks.
     Lmao. Are we really doing find the gene? Are you dusting off your fedora and going to start arguing biology doesn't real on YouTube? I think you missed that bandwagon by a few years man.
   • SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:06 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)

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     @Nou Dude, chix will fall for and be loyal to a guy doing life behind bars. I think you're pretty mistaken about just how many are gold diggers.
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:06 JST Nick

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @SuperLutheran Fall for? Sure. Be loyal to? Anecdotally from the chicks I've known who do that... lol. Lmao.
     As for the gold digger part, I usually don't phrase these critiques purely in terms of money. Because I agree it's rarely that simple. But it doesn't change the fact that women are hardwired to trade on their sexuality for resources. And in the case of the ones who marry convicts, that resource is usually drugs. Which is... uh... a lateral move at best.
   • SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:07 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)

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     @Nou So you believe that I'm only "viewed as" an ATM by my wife?
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:07 JST Nick

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @SuperLutheran Obviously I don't know your wife personally. And I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on what she thinks.
     But on a subconscious level, chances are... yeah. Maybe you're right, and she is one of the top percent of a percent who is completely able to overcome her biological hardwiring. And I pray you have found the Thomas Sowell of the XX gang.
     But assuming you have, speaking in generalities based off a single outlier is... not a great way of interacting with the world.
   • SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:08 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)

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     @Nou EXCUSE ME, I'm NOT just an ATM to my wife. I'm the leader of this household and king of my castle.
     I'm also a bodyguard, body pillow, personal driver, dude that gets her pregnant, chore helper outer, landscaper, coffee guy, introversion enabler and foot massager.
     And I'm the best at what I do.
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:08 JST Nick

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @SuperLutheran >I'm NOT just an ATM to my wife
     I never said you were.
     I would also never describe the US as a giant Welfare Store for the entire third world.
     But in both cases the point is about what these things are *viewed as*, not what they are.
   • :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay: (rmiv@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:21:44 JST :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay:

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @Nou @SuperLutheran >You got very, very butthurt
     
     speculation.
     
     anyway it appears our minds will not meet on this subject.
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   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:50:28 JST Nick

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     • Victor_Emmanuel
     @Victor_Emmanuel @SuperLutheran Christ Himself explicitly allowed for divorce.
     >I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, EXCEPT FOR SEXUAL IMMORALITY, and marries another woman commits adultery
     [Emphasis added]
     So failure to abide by the tenets of the contract results in the dissolution of the contract. Sounds an awful lot like a transaction to me. Unless you think He was mistaken?
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   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:50:29 JST Nick

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     • Victor_Emmanuel
     @Victor_Emmanuel @SuperLutheran >This does not apply to a Christian marriage.
     Wanna bet?
   • Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:50:29 JST Victor_Emmanuel

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @Nou @SuperLutheran Yes I want to bet divorce is a major sin in the eyes of the Lord and thus can’t happen in a Christian marriage.
     Now if you want to say that secular marriage is transactional, I would agree with you.
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:50:30 JST Nick

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @SuperLutheran I don't disagree with any of that, except your assertion that what you described isn't transactional. It absolutely is.
     It may not be a 1:1 quid pro quo, but it is indisputably a transaction. And one can test this by looking at any relationship where a man stops paying or a woman stops putting out. The other side dries up. And usually incredibly quickly.
   • Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:50:30 JST Victor_Emmanuel

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @Nou @SuperLutheran A transaction can be ended at anytime by either party for any reason. This does not apply to a Christian marriage.
   • SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:50:31 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)

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     @Nou "women trading on resources for their sexuality"
     That's prostitution by definition lmao
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:50:31 JST Nick

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @SuperLutheran So which part of that are you denying applies to marriage?
     Husbands aren't supposed to financially take care of their wives? Or wives aren't supposed to pay the marital debt?
   • SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:50:31 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)

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     @Nou Wives are to "pay the marital debt" because that is their duty (and pleasure) to their husband, not in order to obtain resources. Husbands, likewise, are to have sex with their wives for the exact same reason. Scripture does not present marriage as a transactional affair.
     Husbands *also* provide, but not in order to purchase sex. It is, per Ephesians 5, to be done without conditions per the Agape love charged to them.
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:50:32 JST Nick

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @SuperLutheran Obviously a bad example since Our Lady was born free from the stain of Original Sin.
     But if you want to pick any other female saint, then absolutely. And overcoming the worst parts of their nature is precisely why they get that cool little "St." in front of their name.
   • SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:50:32 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)

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     @Nou But if women are "hard wired" to be whores as you say, then that isn't from original sin, that's from design. That would apply to Mary.
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:50:32 JST Nick

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @SuperLutheran >then that isn't from original sin, that's from design
     That's not (necessarily) true in the slightest. That only holds if you think that the spiritual doesn't affect the physical. Which would be a really bizarre take for a believer to have.
     
     I'll also take this opportunity to point out "to be whores" is your wording, not mine. I don't think that women trading on resources for their sexuality (or men doing the reverse) is inherently bad. It's kind of one of the main purposes of marriage in a non-Clown World.
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:50:33 JST Nick

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     • SuperLutheran (Festive half)
     @SuperLutheran I'm not a determinist of any sort.
     But pretending biology doesn't lead to certain inclinations or predispositions is just schizophrenic.
     And extremely ironic from someone who was not too long ago trying to tell me one of the messages of 1 Corinthians was "self-control is hard."
   • SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 23:50:33 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)

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     @Nou Oh, you want to get theological here, I see. So do you believe the Virgin Mary was hard wired to be a prostitute?