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1. Freezenet (freezenet@noc.social)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:28:39 JST Freezenet

   Australia’s Chief Bill C-18 Lobbyist Calls for Even More Censorship of the News

   Bill C-18 lobbyist and former ACCC chair, Rod Sims, is calling for even more censorship of the news on platforms.

   The damage unleashed by Bill C-18 is already being felt with publishers already seeing their news links blocked on

   https://www.freezenet.ca/australias-chief-bill-c-18-lobbyist-calls-for-even-more-censorship-of-the-news/

   #Censorship #Copyright #BillC18 #Canada #OnlineNewsAct #RodSims

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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:30:23 JST cool_boy_mew

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     >Second, the Australian NMBC says that if Google and Meta decide not to show news on their platforms then they cannot show any news at all from anywhere. In this context, it would mean that if Google and Facebook remove news it would not just be news focused on a Canadian audience but all news from anywhere in the world however targeted
     
     Oh please, please, I have been waiting for this day for long :marioawe:
     
     It might actually go and destroy all mainstream news organization and/or ruin social media also in the process, that would be phenomenal. Couldn't ask for anything better
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:32:25 JST Moon

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     @coolboymew @freezenet > then they cannot show any news at all from anywhere.
     
     lmao justify this in any sane way other than might makes right
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:33:40 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Moon @freezenet I have no idea why the Australian gov is jumping into this because this is about to be a stupid fight where none of them will win
   • Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:34:15 JST Hoss Delgado

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     >Second, the Australian NMBC says that if Google and Meta decide not to show news on their platforms then they cannot show any news at all from anywhere.
     On one hand, I don't want Australia's nanny state government to think they have this kind of retarded jurisdictional reach for anything. But on the other, this would be the most utterly devastating backfire for news media of all time.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:35:25 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Hoss @freezenet This is exactly why I hope, especially Google, doesn't back down. We're actually approaching a possible future where Google might do a service blackout and we'll see how much the gov starts to panic if this happens
   • Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:38:19 JST Hoss Delgado

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     Immediate hilarious chaos hopefully followed by calls for institutions to de-Google themselves so they don't become a casualty of anything like that ever again.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:40:41 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Hoss @freezenet god, the mutually assured destructions that could be going on would be phenomenal, imagine how much we could win
     
     -Destruction of the terrible legacy and MSM media
     -Destruction of Google and people stopping depending on them
     -Mainstream social media gets BTFO
     
     Which would make it a more likely return to the old net
     
     I'm just salivating at the possibilities. It just feels like we're racking constant wins lately and the bad institutions, govs, big tech, etc. are just taking Ls after Ls
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:40:47 JST Moon

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     @coolboymew @freezenet anglophile country governments are major disinformation producers so they are trying to get in front of opposition. open societies are dead.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:41:11 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Moon @freezenet but in the process, currently, they're racking nothing but Ls, this is pretty great
   • Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:42:09 JST Hoss Delgado

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     We'll win.
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   • Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:43:32 JST Hoss Delgado

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     >Destruction of the terrible legacy and MSM media
     >Destruction of Google and people stopping depending on them
     >Mainstream social media gets BTFO
     >A return to the old net
     
     My reaction to these things suddenly happening all in rapid succession would be to assume that I was in a bad car accident and this is a very lovely coma.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:45:02 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Hoss @freezenet the thing is that the institutions are getting greedy as fuck, not just in the monetary sense, but they cannot even see a step ahead anymore, that's how they're constantly taking Ls. They don't even bother with the mask now
     
     Real "fall of the empire" state we're in right now
   • Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:46:19 JST Hoss Delgado

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     It just seems way too good to be true that the masters have overplayed their hands and are desperate for everyone not to notice.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:46:57 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Hoss @freezenet the reality is that they're actually this stupid and greedy
   • Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:47:54 JST Hoss Delgado

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     Today, I will try to choose faith over cynicism.
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   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 04:51:20 JST Moon

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     @coolboymew @freezenet every anglo government is pathetic and evil and should be replaced
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   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 05:16:31 JST sim

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     @Moon @coolboymew @freezenet Are they even run by anglos at this point?
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 05:16:31 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @sim @Moon @freezenet we still have ties to the UK royalty. Some QC party was being deligerent about it and they got shunned big time IIRC
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 17-Jul-2023 05:18:51 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @sim @Moon @freezenet besides I don't think we're using Anglos as English (the UK), but Anglos as Anglophone, just English speaking. All the English speaking governments are currently a fucking disaster
   • Freezenet (freezenet@noc.social)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 06:26:27 JST Freezenet

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     @coolboymew @Hoss@shitpost.cloud I'm not so sure Google (or Facebook for that matter) will actually get hurt by this. The data was pretty consistent in that very few interactions revolve around news for them.

     I mean, even I would shrug off an, at most, 2% loss in traffic and carry on like nothing happened. The media companies, however, are a different story with seeing stats of 40%-60% in a potential loss of traffic. Any cash strapped media organization would, at minimum, get a new limp from that.

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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 06:30:40 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @freezenet depends on if the government doubles down, obviously I'm getting a tad ahead of myself, but stopping the ad funding is step 1. And as hoss suggested, it could result in de-googling, stopping using their google e-mail/drive, etc. suit and such.
     
     It's just a possible really exciting prospect as someone on the fediverse
   • keithzg (keithzg@fediverse.keithzg.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 06:31:06 JST keithzg

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     @freezenet @coolboymew And here in Canada I'm sure the big players like Postmedia and Bell will get big handouts in return, with no stipulations like "and use that to actually pay people" so they'll just continue to cut coverage, especially local news and investigative journalism, anyways. Mind you all that has been and would happen without this bill or any reaction from Facebook and Google anyways.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 06:33:06 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @keithzg @freezenet Money or no money, the quality of the content isn't going to change or improve, that's for sure. This is why legacy media being hurt is overall pretty exciting, as it could shake up an old industry that just needs to die and be reborn at this point
   • Freezenet (freezenet@noc.social)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 06:33:20 JST Freezenet

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     @keithzg @coolboymew Indeed. With the government already openly contemplating issuing massive bailouts, the hedge fund managers and CEOs will be happy in the end. The actual people behind news coverage? Not so much.

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   • keithzg (keithzg@fediverse.keithzg.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 06:59:27 JST keithzg

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     @coolboymew @freezenet Eh, I wish I could be that optimistic. Barring a radical change in political power in this country I would assume like previous shakeups of the media industry it will largely just mean more consolidation and costcutting while independent outlets continue to dwindle. People know they can go to ctv.ca, they don't know they can go to thenarwhal.ca, so the big outlets (alongside getting government subsidies) can still get traffic while without visibility on mainstream social media and related services the smaller ones which have appeared over the past years will have an even harder time getting noticed by the public. That's my much more pessimistic guess, at least.
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